QuoteJust puts figures on what we already know anyway.
Article from todays Irish Times paints a very gloomy picture if Gerry Gannon pulls the plug.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...266101415.html
We are the Galway Boys Stand up and make some noise"
Just puts figures on what we already know anyway.
Dublin City proved that one man bands cant survive in the LOI.
Buckley has his heart in the right place and is a lot more copped on than that fool Ronan Seery ever was, but even still a team with no tradition and a tiny support base backed by one of Namas customers is only going to last for so long.
My prediction is a year from now, Fingal and Shels will merge to be become Sporting Shelbourne or Shelbourne Fingal FC, soon afterwards the double barrel name will be forgotten and it will be refered to as Shels, they will vacate Tolka and try to base themselves in North County Dublin as per SF's current plans and Buckley will be CEO / mananger and Shels will end up back in the premier division.
A nice neat tidy solution that should sort out a few problems in one go!
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To be dependent on any single benefactor is a potential problem - but when that ammount is €750k last season, and still posting a loss, it is pretty obvious that there is a serious crash possible.
The league needs another crash and burn club like a hole in the head.
The fact that Sporting Fingal has such a hefty budget this year presumably means that funds are guaranteed for this season at least. Please say it is so, FAI and Fingal, that you have cast iron enforcable guarantees in place!!
750k put in and they still lost 75k?. Bloody hell. That certainly can't last. I give them a year max if this continues.
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
And that's after winning the Cup too.Originally Posted by Longfordian
Anyone know what was the prize money for cup winners and runners-up?
Their accounts show prepaid income of E157k compared to E3k last year. No breakdown other than that, but it seems fair to assume the majority of the E157k is Cup money.
What's that Stu - season tickets etc?
Hunky Dorys Park - could be worse, we could be going to Old Trafford every other week
Answer's in the post, Celdrog.
The Cup prize money they'd earned but not physically received at the time.
75k for winning the cup i believe, any new club is going to have high costs initially with trying to establish themselves in the local community. The club are doing great work in the local community at the moment and the fruits of this will be seen over the next few seasons. I wouldn't read to much into this article its just a chance for all the negative people and begrudgers to have another pop. We're not going anywhere, no fear there!
Well I'd welcome some of the players onto the Shels team but neither of those names even if it was for a season or two.
Saying that Sporting Fingal have supporters that are measured in the hundreds is being very kind to them, if attendances are in the hundreds at Morton Park you can be sure that the majority of the support is there for the away team.This success has come at a price though. Sporting Fingal lost €75,358 in the year to the end of November last – a chunky sum for a club whose average crowd is usually measured in the hundreds.
Weaseling out of things is important to learn, it's what seperates us from the animals!! Well... except for the weasel.
One less dublin club might well be no harm but I dont really see much other merit in the idea - Shels need a ground, Sporting dont have one. Sporting F need a fan base and money shels dont have much of either. two clubs with deficencies would just become one club with deficencies.
One less problem (as one less club) but thats all.
I think we said that fairly frequently in 2005/6/7.
In essence, Fingal survive on one man putting money in (as well as the taxpayer). If(When) Gannon stops they are gone. Happened us, except we didn't go totally as we have a half reasonable support base. Good luck to Fingal if they can establish this in the next 2 years by visiting a few schools.
Hunky Dorys Park - could be worse, we could be going to Old Trafford every other week
I guess time will tell.
The difference this year is our budget is the same as last years while we should get larger away crowds in morton and an increase in home crowds. Our sponsorship will have increased by quite a bit also. A bit of a run in europe will do no harm either. Not saying this will all add up to us not having problems in the future but it will help. I just hope Gannon can stay around for long enough or we can get in some new investors. I guess we will see.
As for the promoting side of things, well the club never stops tbh. They have visited an unbelieveable amount of schools over the last 2 to 3 months with the cup and they plan to visit every school in Fingal. Just hope it works. Although sitting in a stand filled with screaming kids is not always a pleasant thingbut it is where we need to start.
Iv really enjoyed following the team over the last 2 years and hopefully this will continue for a long time to come.
> The difference this year is our budget is the same as last years while we should get larger away crowds in morton and an increase in home crowds.
Look at the pics from last season of the "crowd" Pats brought to Dalyer. If you think 1000s of Pats, Rovers or Bohs fans are going to turn up at any games in Morton you are deluded!
> Our sponsorship will have increased by quite a bit also.
Doubt it, all sports clubs and charities are struggling to attract sponsorship in the economic climate.
Fingal already punched way above their weight re sponsorship in the first division.
With Gannon about to be namafied it will be interesting to see how this affects sponsorship.
E.g. managing to attract a large sum from a bank for a shirt sleeve is unlikely to be repeated going forward.
> A bit of a run in europe will do no harm either.
Most clubs are lucky to break even playing in Europe when team and travel costs are taken into account. Glamour ties and TV money are rare these days!
> I just hope Gannon can stay around for long enough or we can get in some new investors.
No-one is going to "invest" money in a football club in the current climate!
Well done to him if Buckley has securing the funding for this season, but time might will tell a tale as they say!
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Fair enough. Not going to get into a debate on whether I think you are right or not. Each to their own.
Gannon is a dead duck financially, however the criminal actions of his Fianna Fáil friends to create National Property Developers Bailout Agency will save him his helicopters and mansions. Had Gannon been wound up as he would have been in any other proper functioning nation Sporting Fingal would already have gone down with him.
Gannon will cost you, I and every citizen of this state close to 1 billion euro. Make no bones about it, that 700k he is ****ing into the black hole of Sporting Fingal is our money, money that could pay for say recently cut special needs assistants. And to think John Delaney is holding Sporting Fingal up as a model for a sustainble club
If Fingal County Council still have ambitions for a sustainable LOI club in their region and to develop a stadium the only realistic solution I can see is to link up with an established name such as Shels or Bohs otherwise this unsustainable white elephant is doomed.
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The Leinster Senior League needs a strong Bohemians
If a club with a tradition like Shel's struggle with support and finances, what chance do someone like Fingal have. If the teams from the two biggest participating regional cities in the league go broke in the same year what hope have Fingal. If the glamour boys of the league can only manage an average 3600 in a glorious return by dint of a beautiful new stadium to their beloved southside what chance have Fingal. It think the spread is to start 1-3 seasons more.
This is funny
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