2010 attendances

[Dodge]

315 at UCD v Drogheda.

We've had one Friday home game out of five this season, and our next home game is against Pat's on a Bank Holiday Monday. I'm sure there's a carp smiley for that...

Last couple of years with opats saw the 2nd half of our season destroyed by weird days/times for kick offs. The rake of midweek games can't help clubs either

Shame that Monday game doesn't have an afternoon kick off

[marinobohs]

Last couple of years with opats saw the 2nd half of our season destroyed by weird days/times for kick offs. The rake of midweek games can't help clubs either

Shame that Monday game doesn't have an afternoon kick off

Personally think the LOI would be better cancelling the mid season break (Yes, I know all the arguments) than have the number of midweek matches we currently have. Difficult enough to get people out to a game on a Friday/weekend but even worse for a Monday game

[Dodge]

The break is there for one reason only. Part time players wanting a summer holiday.

(And yeah, I think its a terrible thing)

[marinobohs]

The break is there for one reason only. Part time players wanting a summer holiday.

(And yeah, I think its a terrible thing)

yeah, I know the reason but if we are stuck with it then perhaps we should look at extending the season ? Just think that midweek/early week games are making a bad job (attracting crowds) worse

[Dodge]

Just wait until you're playing in europe

The current situation is a joke. Absolutely no thought gopes into the fixtures

[marinobohs]

Just wait until you're playing in europe

The current situation is a joke. Absolutely no thought gopes into the fixtures

I remember last year and the EA Sports cup/Derry fiasco happened when we were playing in europe - fortunately only in Wales but three away games in a week (Thanks to FAI muppetry). God help any Irish team that makes it to the group stage because the FAI wont help them.

[Mr A]

yeah, I know the reason but if we are stuck with it then perhaps we should look at extending the season ? Just think that midweek/early week games are making a bad job (attracting crowds) worse

Then the majority of clubs end up paying players for the extra time. Even the full time clubs would suffer as contracts often run out at the end of the season and may not be renewed until closer to the following season.

[Buller]

Rovers-Sligo match was 3175 according to RTE.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/...ers_sligo.html

[poster]

Buller, is there any pics of the 'original' stand last night? We were down the end of that stand so couldn't see how many Shams fans were there? Only looked about 1,100 in the 'new' stand?

Also, do those stands have names yet?

[pineapple stu]

Averages after round 10. Official figures in bold. Club averages in bold means more than half of their figures are official.

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,217 (2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976)
Bray - 900 (1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Drogheda - 1,064 (1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 2,367 (2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Galway - 909 (1,076; 1,393; 2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD)
Pat's - 1,781 (1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3,832 (3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Sligo - 2,219 (1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
Sporting Fingal - 1,308 (635; 688)
UCD - 461 (272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 565 (462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Cork - 2,664 (2,681 PD; 3,142 PD; 2,897 PD; 2,941 PD; 3,644 PD)
Derry - 2,233 (2,436 PD; 3,363 PD; 2,614 PD; 3,229 PD; 2,698 PD)
Harps - 781 (480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106)
Limerick - 778 (429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 325 (260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD)
Mervue - 188 (166)
Monaghan - 213 (183; 177; 292; 204; 183)
Salthill Devon - 172 (N/A)
Shels - 819 (972; 986; 888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD)
Waterford - 859 (434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 270 (494; 767; 810)

Premier Division average - 1,718 (2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
First Division average - 822 (417; 641; 722; 570; 520)

Overall average - 1,270 (1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)


Attendances for last weekend (i.e. the figures I've gone with) -
Dundalk v Bray 1716
Galway v Pat's 806
Rovers v Sligo 3175
Fingal v Bohs 1564
UCD v Drogheda 315

[Buller]

Buller, is there any pics of the 'original' stand last night? We were down the end of that stand so couldn't see how many Shams fans were there? Only looked about 1,100 in the 'new' stand?

Also, do those stands have names yet?

I missed my first match last night. Most people just call it the East/Ultras stand and the Main stand.
Did it really look only around a third full?! You'll see the main stand on MNS or video's I'm sure.
If there are any pictures I'll send you them.

[passinginterest]

I missed my first match last night. Most people just call it the East/Ultras stand and the Main stand.
Did it really look only around a third full?! You'll see the main stand on MNS or video's I'm sure.
If there are any pictures I'll send you them.

There was less in the main stand than the new stand, at kick off I though the crowd was just over 2,000 but a lot seemed to come in late and that 3,000 odd looks official and it did seem very similar to recent games that were just over 3,000.

[oriel]

Quite an alarming slide in crowds for Wexford - off topic the excellent 'When Saturday Comes' (uk mag) has a full pager on them this month. Good article too.

Agree 100% re mid week games, waste of time in this league, esp if you have 2 home games in a row, it really is hard enough getting fans to pay in once every 2 weeks, never mind twice over 3 days.

Why not extend the season by 2 weeks and just keep these games down to 2 holiday weekend fixtures ?

We got 3,000 last friday and 1,300 less 3 days later, granted the Bray support v Bohs is not a good comparison, but the point still remains. People just dont have the money/interest for mid week/twice a week games.

[Dillonman]

Alot of people cant make midweek games beacue of work/college commitments or even travel arrangements, Monday night games are a bad idea and this year sees a few more than last doesn't it. But to even throw up agmes v teams across the country doesnt help. We had to play Galway away and Sligo away Easter weekend where as every other team had one away, one home. Why cant they keep loacal teams v local teams in these midweek games if they are a must. ie perhaps Galway v Sligo on Mondays, Dundalk v Drawda on Mondays, and the Dublin lot v the Dublin lot

[dong]

Have to add my agreement to everything Marinobohs, Dodge, oriel,etc have said regarding Monday and Tuesday night games.
I'm no master of economics but if the season was extended, with all or most of the games played at weekends, surely the resulting bigger crowds would cover the wages?
It takes away from atmosphere at games also.

[John83]

Have to add my agreement to everything Marinobohs, Dodge, oriel,etc have said regarding Monday and Tuesday night games.
I'm no master of economics but if the season was extended, with all or most of the games played at weekends, surely the resulting bigger crowds would cover the wages?
It takes away from atmosphere at games also.

Say the average club has 4 Monday games a season (It doesn't matter - the numbers scale). Extending the season by four weeks would cost something of the order of €20,000 in wages (assuming €5k/week wage budgets - throw in other costs and I'd be surprised if that figure wasn't very conservative figure for the Premier) and you need to get an average of nearly 800 extra punters to two games (you're away on half of those 4 extra weekends) to break even. I really don't think it works out.

The clubs in this league don't pay their wages with gate receipts. There just aren't the crowds for it.

[Dodge]

It just needs better planning. Setanta and european games are never ever taking into account when they draw up fixtures. Since the first week of the season Pats have played twice a week every week 9bar 2 postponements). There'll be times in September when we'll go a week without a game. Why the need to get postponed/re-scheduled games played so soon?

[Schumi]

Playing Setanta Cup games on weekends was a terrible idea. They still get **** crowds and league games (affecting twice as many clubs) get shifted to midweek instead with crowds down overall.

[Spudulika]

Is anyone surprised about the fixture congestion, a week before kick off nobdy knew for sure who was in what division! Monday nights are always going to be difficult, unless they're a regular date for a club. The weekend excess takes the guts of you wage so the last thing you want to end up doing is taking in your second game in 3-4 days when you've got to work the next morning. However I can't see the solution to it - especially as extending the season makes no real financial sense.

[Dodge]

Well if its planned properly it isn't extending the seaosn. its just a longer season (can start earlier if they wish...)

As they showed by switchng Cork and bray, they don't need to know all the teams involved. just those involved in europe and setanta