Chris Turner

**Dodge** · 11/03/2010, 9:56 PM

Right lads I'm not a mod here anymore but can people not start posting up speculaive posts about what might be wrong. Wait for the investigation

**blackholesun** · 11/03/2010, 10:25 PM

I hope Sligo enjoy the" brown envelope" derby v Derry in a few weeks time.

Cheerio lads!

bhs

**dong** · 11/03/2010, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by blackholesun

I hope Sligo enjoy the" brown envelope" derby v Derry in a few weeks time.

Cheerio lads!

bhs

Have to hold my hands up and admit I misread the Turner situation.
The club have done so too, almost spectacularly by the sounds of it.
You could well be right blackholesun....
I hope to God our accounts are in order, I wouldn't bet the house on it though.

**RoversHead** · 11/03/2010, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by dong

Have to hold my hands up and admit I misread the Turner situation.
The club have done so too, almost spectacularly by the sounds of it.
You could well be right blackholesun....
I hope to God our accounts are in order, I wouldn't bet the house on it though.

Anecdotaly speaking if you add the match ticket sorry cloakroom ticket fiasco of last week into the mix it starts to look very ropey indeed.

**SkStu** · 12/03/2010, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Right lads I'm not a mod here anymore but can people not start posting up speculaive posts about what might be wrong. Wait for the investigation

alright then - i wont speculate on who might win tomorrow between Sligo and Fingal while im at it.

Come on Dodge, thats a ridiculous post. Surely, its okay to speculate as long as you dont present it as fact or start throwing wild accusations around? I think its quite clear from my post that i wasnt doing either.

**Dodge** · 12/03/2010, 7:09 AM

My post wasn't address at you Stu, but gufct' s

"Id say the €5k wasnt shown in Sligo's budget and if the the league go sniffing around on the rest of their signings they could be found to be further in breach.John Russells Situation seems very strange."

That, to me, is just a "wild accusation"

I agree there's a difference betwween your post and his

EDIT; BTW I think does looks really bad for Sligo. Obviously it'd help if we knew what that particular article of the participation Agreement was about, but any investigation on contract matters can't lead to good news

Unless they're cleared of any wrong doing of course.

**baoithe** · 12/03/2010, 8:23 AM

Can anyone provide me a link to a copy of the Participation Agreement?

**Ezeikial** · 12/03/2010, 9:07 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

My post wasn't address at you Stu, but gufct' s

"Id say the €5k wasnt shown in Sligo's budget and if the the league go sniffing around on the rest of their signings they could be found to be further in breach.John Russells Situation seems very strange."

That, to me, is just a "wild accusation"

I agree there's a difference betwween your post and his

EDIT; BTW I think does looks really bad for Sligo. Obviously it'd help if we knew what that particular article of the participation Agreement was about, but any investigation on contract matters can't lead to good news

Unless they're cleared of any wrong doing of course.

Speculation on "what might be wrong" has been a constant feature of posts on foot.ie (for right or wrong) - and you have authored plenty of them!

A post that starts with "I'd say" is hardly presenting anything other then the posters opinion -gufct is speculating that the €5k may not be in Sligo's budget and hence there could be trouble. Seems pretty similar to what you say in a general way - "I think does looks really bad for Sligo"

**pineapple stu** · 12/03/2010, 9:13 AM

Not when he's bringing another, named, player into the equation. Then it turns into potential libel. gufct has been asked to back up or delete his post.

**Dodge** · 12/03/2010, 9:27 AM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Speculation on "what might be wrong" has been a constant feature of posts on foot.ie (for right or wrong) - and you have authored plenty of them!

A post that starts with "I'd say" is hardly presenting anything other then the posters opinion -gufct is speculating that the €5k may not be in Sligo's budget and hence there could be trouble. Seems pretty similar to what you say in a general way - "I think does looks really bad for Sligo"

Again, I've no problem with the posts about Turner (as the investigation announced certainly indicates something may be wrong)

Saying another player's situation is "strange" without anything to back it up, or without previous reporting of it, is quite different IMO. As I said earlier, its just my opinion, I'm not a mod here anymore

**gufct** · 12/03/2010, 9:55 AM

John Russell is known to have been signed by Sligo Rovers and has been widely reported in the media but Sligo have not Officialy announced it http://www.sligorovers.com/index.php...ews&Itemid=246 .There are reasons why this hasnt been announced and Ill leave it up to yourself to guess why but the €5k paid UPFRONT to Turner will lead to a full trawl of all Sligo's signings and contracts.

**Dodge** · 12/03/2010, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by gufct

John Russell is known to have been signed by Sligo Rovers and has been widely reported in the media but Sligo have not Officialy announced it

So its only me out of the loop then? Ha!

Carry on so...

**pineapple stu** · 12/03/2010, 10:07 AM

His wikipedia says he's a Sligo player, so there must be something in it.

Signing was announced in the Sligo Champion, but isn't on the Sligo site as gufct notes. There could be a few reasons for this - a typo, for example - but gufct's conclusion drawn isn't entirely unreasonable given what's gone before.

**Ezeikial** · 12/03/2010, 10:33 AM

Sligo's agreement with John Russell was "strange" at the time (and was commented on as such here) given that he is unlikely to be even able to train until April or May because of the tibia fracture -

http://blackandwhitetown.squarespace...add-breen.html

Foster was keen to add both to his squad but he said that both deals had fallen through. Russell picked up a stress fracture of his tibia while on trial in the UK last week and has been ruled out for 12-14 weeks.

If Sligo's advance payment to Chris Turner falls foul of the league authorities it is fair to speculate that this signing (among others at Sligo) may be scrutinised. I can't for the life of me see what would be wrong with an advance payment of wages/ a loan/ or a signing-on fee unless it was undeclared in the budget submissions.

**gufct** · 12/03/2010, 10:55 AM

That is exactly my point and if Players are being paid but not officialy signed that is even more serious.

**marinobohs** · 12/03/2010, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

That is exactly my point and if Players are being paid but not officialy signed that is even more serious.

Would it be fair to ask if shams are paying the porn star as they don't have a contract with him either ?

**gufct** · 12/03/2010, 1:00 PM

He doesnt have to be employed as a player to be legit in Rovers Books (Bohs Fans should be quite used to this).

**sligoman** · 13/03/2010, 1:53 PM

Russell signing is hardly a big secret. Davoren mentioned it in his interview on loi.ie, it's been in the papers. Probably not in the squad list on Rovers site either by mistake or just cos he's not signing until July afaik, signed a pre-contract agreement.

**Ezeikial** · 13/03/2010, 7:25 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Russell signing is hardly a big secret.

I don't think that whether it is a "secret" or "common knowledge" is the issue that is being discussed / speculated about in relation to Russell

**gufct** · 15/03/2010, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Russell signing is hardly a big secret. Davoren mentioned it in his interview on loi.ie, it's been in the papers. Probably not in the squad list on Rovers site either by mistake or just cos he's not signing until July afaik, signed a pre-contract agreement.

By Mistake sligoman now even you could come up with something better than that.