New Derry City Crest

**Mr_Parker** · 12/02/2010, 7:35 AM

The 1928 reference on the badge is just another desperate attempt to portray them as something they are not, while helping convince themselves they the same.

Though if it looks like a pig, walks like a pig and grunts like a pig, then it probably is a pig.

**OneRedArmy** · 12/02/2010, 7:55 AM

Err, the new company purchased the trading name (amongst other assets) from the old company, therefore we're still called Derry City FC and the "club", regardless of whatever the petty begrudgers on this thread and elsewhere remains as was.

As an parallel, General Motors went bankrupt last year and a new company was set up to purchase the good assets and it retained the General Motors trading name whilst the old company was left in a liquidation process.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story (or in this case a good whine). Please go troll elsewhere.

**Mr_Parker** · 12/02/2010, 8:40 AM

You can't buy history.

**sligoman** · 12/02/2010, 8:48 AM

Originally Posted by De Town

Coz they're a new club isn't it?!

That's what I had thought but they're still calling themselves Derry City FC and still claim to have been founded in 1928 so wasn't sure if they were officially a new club or not.

**pineapple stu** · 12/02/2010, 9:02 AM

Never seen anyone complaining about Cork City claiming to have been founded in 1984. Really don't know why people make such a big deal out of something like that; just looking for a whine.

(And speaking of a whine - Mr Parker, give the trolling a rest)

**sligoman** · 12/02/2010, 9:07 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Never seen anyone complaining about Cork City claiming to have been founded in 1984. Really don't know why people make such a big deal out of something like that; just looking for a whine.

(And speaking of a whine - Mr Parker, give the trolling a rest)

I don't know much about Cork's history apart from them having a rake of names throughout the years. This Derry incident was recent so I'm aware(or at least I had thought) they'd be coming back as a new club. Not whining, just wondering why they had the new crest if it's the same Derry City F.C.

**OneRedArmy** · 12/02/2010, 9:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

You can't buy history.

......and apparently you can't buy good legal advice.

**pineapple stu** · 12/02/2010, 9:20 AM

Originally Posted by sligoman

I don't know much about Cork's history apart from them having a rake of names throughout the years. This Derry incident was recent so I'm aware(or at least I had thought) they'd be coming back as a new club. Not whining, just wondering why they had the new crest if it's the same Derry City F.C.

Cork City went bankrupt in 1994 or so. They just formed a new company - mid-season - and continued on as before. This is one of the things licencing has cut out, so the only difference between them and Derry is that licencing has made it obvious what Derry have done.

Shamrock Rovers and UCD claim to have been formed in 1901 (depending what account you read) and 1895 respectively, but both went through a spell of non-existence around the 1910s. Nobody cares.

**micls** · 12/02/2010, 9:20 AM

Originally Posted by sligoman

I don't know much about Cork's history apart from them having a rake of names throughout the years. This Derry incident was recent so I'm aware(or at least I had thought) they'd be coming back as a new club. Not whining, just wondering why they had the new crest if it's the same Derry City F.C.

We were liquidated in 94. As the rules were different then the club continued the season just with a different holding company.

No different from the Derry situation or our possible situation next week apart from teh FAI having different rules.

There's a lot more to a club than the holding company.

They changed their crest cos the old one was rubbish. They were discusisng this before the company was even wound up

**John83** · 12/02/2010, 10:50 AM

I have my grandfather's hammer on a shelf in the garage. My father replaced the handle. I replaced the head.

**cheech** · 12/02/2010, 11:32 AM

That crest is awful, the one they had in the 80s was better. That looks like an Art project.

I've no problem with them having 1928 on it. After all, it was then formed.

There are many issues about the shiny new debt free Derry City starting off life again in the First Division. They have probably the strongest squad, can offer more wages than their competitors and going forward are debt free.

I'd have more issues with how their systematic cheating and the writing off of massive debts have been dealt with.

The fox that is Kenny lives again. I'm sure he's not too bothered about the lettering on the new crest after he managed to get out of that mess without as much of a murmur.

**Candystripe** · 12/02/2010, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by micls

They changed their crest cos the old one was rubbish. They were discusisng this before the company was even wound up

We have indeed been discussing changing the crest for years.I think the original design should have been used as posted here.

**Dodge** · 12/02/2010, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by John83

I have my grandfather's hammer on a shelf in the garage. My father replaced the handle. I replaced the head.

Any chance I could get a loan of that hammer so I don't have to read another one of these ridiculous threads on the legitimacy of crests, names and foundation dates

**cheech** · 12/02/2010, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Any chance I could get a loan of that hammer so I don't have to read another one of these ridiculous threads on the legitimacy of crests, names and foundation dates

No need. The clue is in the title.

**Acornvilla** · 12/02/2010, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by cheech

That crest is awful, the one they had in the 80s was better. That looks like an Art project.

I've no problem with them having 1928 on it. After all, it was then formed.

There are many issues about the shiny new debt free Derry City starting off life again in the First Division. They have probably the strongest squad, can offer more wages than their competitors and going forward are debt free.

I'd have more issues with how their systematic cheating and the writing off of massive debts have been dealt with.

The fox that is Kenny lives again. I'm sure he's not too bothered about the lettering on the new crest after he managed to get out of that mess without as much of a murmur.

dont insult art by comparing it to that.. thing

**Dodge** · 12/02/2010, 1:28 PM

Originally Posted by cheech

No need. The clue is in the title.

No, the title is "New Derry City Crest"

Its not "Are the new Derry City entitled to use the name "Derry City", and if they're changing their crest, are they entitled to claim they were founded in...."

**blackholesun** · 12/02/2010, 2:44 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Cork City went bankrupt in 1994 or so. They just formed a new company - mid-season - and continued on as before. This is one of the things licencing has cut out, so the only difference between them and Derry is that licencing has made it obvious what Derry have done.

Shamrock Rovers and UCD claim to have been formed in 1901 (depending what account you read) and 1895 respectively, but both went through a spell of non-existence around the 1910s. Nobody cares.

Exactly, loads more examples too e.g. when s.p.a.f.c. folded for a year to be replaced by new hybrid club s.p.a.i.s.f.f.c. and then reappeared the following season.

bhs

**John83** · 12/02/2010, 3:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Any chance I could get a loan of that hammer so I don't have to read another one of these ridiculous threads on the legitimacy of crests, names and foundation dates

FORAS have dibs.