Squad for Brazil game

**tetsujin1979** · 26/01/2010, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by Qwerty

I think Ward is worth a look at as we're weak at LB. I don't think the others merit attention, Steven Reid is obviously good enough and we know what he can do and no point in risking injury in a meaningless game. Meyler is getting more starts than Reid right now

Andy Reid's just back after a knee injury

**Deckydee** · 26/01/2010, 9:10 AM

When should we expect the squad announcement? I guess not until anonther 2 weeks?

**tetsujin1979** · 26/01/2010, 9:14 AM

Originally Posted by Deckydee

When should we expect the squad announcement? I guess not until anonther 2 weeks?

at least, I don't expect it until around the 20th February

**dr_peepee** · 26/01/2010, 10:09 AM

Ward is the only one I'd put money on if I had to. Hard to know with Trapp

I do think there's gonna be one out of left field though, a Granny rule recruit. Based on nothing more than a hunch and the idle speculation on the other threads...

**SilkCut** · 26/01/2010, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by twoenz

I can't see Finnan being back. It's not fair to set your stall out for the campaign with him at right back only to have to get someone else in from the 2nd game on. If Trap leaves him out then that will be the matter put to bed.
He's been a great servant, but not one for the future.

Agreed. He should however be picked for the Brazil game to allow him retire properly and say a fitting farewell. The guy was fantastic for us, it would be the least he deserves.

**backstothewall** · 28/01/2010, 10:33 PM

I would pick a big squad, allowing the first choice guys to be there with young players, and to get a look at as many as possible before the next campaign

Given, Westwood, Murphy, Kelly, Foley, O'Shea, Dunne, O'Dea, St. Ledger, Ward, Kilbane, McGeady, Lawrence, Gibson, McCarthy, Andrews, Miller, Fahey, Reid, Reid, Whelan, Hunt, Duff, Folan, Keane, Doyle, Stokes, Sheridan, McGoldrick.

Would start with

---------------Given------------
Finnan Dunne(c) O'Dea Ward
Lawrence McCarthy Andrews Duff
-----------Doyle Stokes--------

Is there a limit on subs?

Assuming no then Keane on for Doyler at half time, and Foley and Kilbane on for Finnan and Andrews soon after. Then get on the youngsters for the last 20 minutes as the chance presents itself.

**bwagner** · 28/01/2010, 11:07 PM

O'Shea is injured for a few more months backtowalsall

McGoldrick?? story?

**Junior** · 29/01/2010, 9:46 AM

Sheridan? Please, Im all for bringing in afew youngsters who have earned the chance. Cillian does not fall in to that category or anywhere near that category at this stage.

**SkStu** · 29/01/2010, 7:02 PM

McGoldrick? Sheridan?

Its like 1994 all over again...

**backstothewall** · 30/01/2010, 6:01 PM

Originally Posted by bwagner

McGoldrick?? story?

Not much other than that he's been doing well for Forest from what I read, and they are flying high at the top of Division 2. Worth a look in a friendly I think.

Originally Posted by Junior

Sheridan? Please, Im all for bringing in afew youngsters who have earned the chance. Cillian does not fall in to that category or anywhere near that category at this stage.

He offers a real physical presence up front, in my opinion he has the potential to be a similar kind of player to Niall Quinn. I'm not saying he should be in a squad for a qualifier, but from what i saw of him when he got a chance at Celtic he looked good in a good team. Its always going to be harder to impress at St. Johnstone, but I think its worth having a look at him train with the likes of Keane and Doyle. If nothing else it will give him a boost, and it would be great for us in the next decade if he develops into an international class player.

**TrapAPony** · 30/01/2010, 6:54 PM

Originally Posted by backtowalsall

Not much other than that he's been doing well for Forest from what I read, and they are flying high at the top of Division 2. Worth a look in a friendly I think.

David McGoldrick is only a sub for Forest... is he eligible for us? Simon Cox is now only a sub for WBA & Dave Kitson isn't getting a look in at Stoke. We badly need new strike options but who else is out there that we can get does anyone know?

**seanfhear** · 31/01/2010, 6:02 AM

Originally Posted by bwagner

McGoldrick?? story?

Has McGoldrick actually declared for Ireland or have I missed something or got the wrong player ?

**Claret Murph** · 31/01/2010, 9:27 AM

I would love to see Chris McCann pull on an Irish shirt , just once . Now if it wasn't for that Givens feller etc etc .

**third policeman** · 31/01/2010, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Has McGoldrick actually declared for Ireland or have I missed something or got the wrong player ?

Is he even actually qualified?

**seanfhear** · 31/01/2010, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by third policeman

Is he even actually qualified?

I do not know

But you would think that if posters were proposing him to be included in an Irish squad then they would let us know one way or another.

**EastTerracer** · 31/01/2010, 2:19 PM

Finnan is having a decent game (at left-back) against City today. While I accept that he isn't going to be around in 4 years time I think he does provide an option for us in O'Shea's absence and, although he doesn't like playing there, he could also give Killer a rest at left-back. Until we have blooded some younger players we can't afford to discard anyone.

**backstothewall** · 31/01/2010, 7:45 PM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Has McGoldrick actually declared for Ireland or have I missed something or got the wrong player ?

I was sure he was qualified for Ireland, though it seems i might have cocked up spectacularly here.

**Junior** · 01/02/2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by backtowalsall

He offers a real physical presence up front, in my opinion he has the potential to be a similar kind of player to Niall Quinn. I'm not saying he should be in a squad for a qualifier, but from what i saw of him when he got a chance at Celtic he looked good in a good team. Its always going to be harder to impress at St. Johnstone, but I think its worth having a look at him train with the likes of Keane and Doyle. If nothing else it will give him a boost, and it would be great for us in the next decade if he develops into an international class player.

He offers the physical presence of a wet paperbag blowing around in the wind at the moment - He is tall but that is a different thing altogether.

He did ok at Celtic when he got those few games under Strachan and showed that he knows where the goal is and can work hard and also has reasonable pace for a big fella. However he showed plenty of shortcomings also, poor first touch, getting easily muscled out, going missing, running around headless chicken like. He's since gone on loan to Motherwell and Plymouth without too much success (hardly featured at Plymouth) lets hope he gets more game time at St. Johnstone.

At this stage in his career, it would be absolutely pointless bringing him in to the senior fold, when players like Folan, Morrison, Stokes, Best, Doyle are playing regularly Im not sure what it would bring other than perhaps a smile to his face?

Billy Mehmet plays regulalrly for St. Mirren, tall & strong causing a problem for defences in the SPL and scores a few (if not massive amount) of goals. He is nowhere near the International setup and nor should he be but he is doing more to justify a claim than Cillian Sheridan is at the moment.

I am not trying to knock the lad, He is v young and has loads of time to develop and I want him to succeed but International Squads should be for players who have earned the right to train and play in that arena - It needs to mean something. I think we have all seen that Trap wont be dishing out caps willy nilly and I dont think he will be dishing out squad places like that either.

**Razors left peg** · 01/02/2010, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Junior

He offers the physical presence of a wet paperbag blowing around in the wind at the moment - He is tall but that is a different thing altogether.

He did ok at Celtic when he got those few games under Strachan and showed that he knows where the goal is and can work hard and also has reasonable pace for a big fella. However he showed plenty of shortcomings also, poor first touch, getting easily muscled out, going missing, running around headless chicken like. He's since gone on loan to Motherwell and Plymouth without too much success (hardly featured at Plymouth) lets hope he gets more game time at St. Johnstone.

At this stage in his career, it would be absolutely pointless bringing him in to the senior fold, when players like Folan, Morrison, Stokes, Best, Doyle are playing regularly Im not sure what it would bring other than perhaps a smile to his face?

Billy Mehmet plays regulalrly for St. Mirren, tall & strong causing a problem for defences in the SPL and scores a few (if not massive amount) of goals. He is nowhere near the International setup and nor should he be but he is doing more to justify a claim than Cillian Sheridan is at the moment.

I am not trying to knock the lad, He is v young and has loads of time to develop and I want him to succeed but International Squads should be for players who have earned the right to train and play in that arena - It needs to mean something. I think we have all seen that Trap wont be dishing out caps willy nilly and I dont think he will be dishing out squad places like that either.

Best post Ive read on here for a while... especially the last paragraph