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    All schools closed til Thursday (at least)

    Over 4000 schools (Primary & Secondary) nationally,I'd say it could be longer with the forecasted weather.

    This is on the instruction of Batt O Keefe.
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    Mixed feelings about this....due to start my final TP on Monday, its really gonna drag out now. That said, I do think they're right to close them, serious risks in having children around school areas and even in getting the children to school.
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    Teacher's unions to strike against the Minister's directive and turn up for work as normal?

    The hassle parents are going to have to arrange childcare or holidays to cover the days off next week will be fairly painful and expensive for many at a time of the year when people tend to be strapped for cash.

    Still think it's the correct call though.
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    I'm not sure it's the right thing to do.

    Take our school for example, we missed 6 days over the flooding, but weve no problems getting in and out in the last 2 days.

    I think it makes more sense to let schools make the decision on a school by school basis based on local conditions, like the last 2 days, rather than forcing closures where they may be unnecessary and having those schools scramble for dates to make them up

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    I'm thinking more of rural schools or those in smaller towns where the teachers and kids are travelling in on roads that won't have a hope of being gritted. School bus stops in those regions are often just the side of the road, it's bad enough in good weather, on icy roads you can't take chances

    I guess individual principals making the call is a fair point though
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiktok View Post
    I'm thinking more of rural schools or those in smaller towns where the teachers and kids are travelling in on roads that won't have a hope of being gritted. School bus stops in those regions are often just the side of the road, it's bad enough in good weather, on icy roads you can't take chances

    I guess individual principals making the call is a fair point though
    Yeah I agree. Anywhere that's dodgy at all the schools should be closed, but I think the boards of management/principals should make the call.

    We had planned to decide sunday night, based on the weather/roads in the area and then text the parents.

    I suppose it does give the parents a few days to organise childcare though.

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    I think the reality is that the weather we're about to be hit with most schools would be closed anyway. Roads to our village clear enough today, but no way you'd risk coming down off the mountains for fear of not getting back up. So the children would get to school, but would the teachers get up? The point about childcare is a bit moot - given we're on the brink of running out of grit I don't think too many people will be making work anyway.

    Still, political imperative achieved - make it look like their doing something proactive. Has the Minister responsible for the roads bothered his arse to come back from holiday yet?
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    Also factor into account the amount of cars/buses that will be off the roads.
    Good decision by BOK for once!

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    Awesome :d

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    Good decision by BOK for once!
    But it would've been made anyway - tinkering around the edges.
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    Great decision, let all the kids off school and let them run around the streets and kill themselves that way.

    Pelting passing cars with snowballs is also popular. Pity their little brains don't realise it's also dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo_Boy View Post
    Great decision, let all the kids off school and let them run around the streets and kill themselves that way.

    Pelting passing cars with snowballs is also popular. Pity their little brains don't realise it's also dangerous.
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    O'Keefe was caught in a lie about this, saying that he consulted the belated emergency committee when in fact he hadn't. Another political embarassment to Cork, that man. We should revoke the PRoC passports of himself, Boyle and Kelleher..
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    Quote Originally Posted by micls
    I'm not sure it's the right thing to do.

    having those schools scramble for dates to make them up
    Cancel the mid-term break then. That's what happened in 82. There's no urgent need for most schools to open straight after New Year in this weather. Of all timetables, the school one seems to be most inflexible.

    The school year "must" start on the 1st September every year, there "must" be a mid-term break when the clocks go back and it "must" be a week for no particular reason, they "must" resume on the first Monday after signing Auld Lang Syne, they "must" have a mid-term in February for no apparant reason, they "must" have a week off for 2 religious holidays in Easter, the Certs "must" start the first Wednesday to the third Friday in June, and they "must" not open in July and August. Whatever the circumstances.

    Now everyone knows that timetables must be honoured, but there are times when some flexibility should be shown. Now is one such time, but at the start of September, the risk of contracting Swine Flu in schools was increased, and within weeks 2 schools had to shut because of it. Why did school have to start then? Because that's how it always was, and probably always will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    Cancel the mid-term break then. That's what happened in 82.
    Thats what will happen in most schools id imagine, its the only place the 3 days can be made up. However it will cause hassle for families and teachers who have holidays etc booked for then.

    As I said, fair enough if it's necessary to close. Im not convinced it will be in all schools though and it seems pointless to make these close
    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    The school year "must" start on the 1st September every year,
    That's not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    they "must" resume on the first Monday after signing Auld Lang Syne,
    Again not true
    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    they "must" have a mid-term in February for no apparant reason,
    Only 2 days on the February break are mandatory, the rest is discretionary


    The standarised year helps parents, teachers etc know when they can book holidays for.

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    He wasn't being literal micls, to be fair. There's a certain misplaced rigidity in the school system that stems from church control, directly and indirectly. It's just silly.

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    Are you sure? I think he was tbh bar the Monday after the new year one possibly.

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    They couldn't have been literal, by dint of the fact that at least one the assertions - the one you highlighted - are impossible. I'd be surprised if they didn't know that. mypost is a pain in the arse at times - sorry mypost - but I don't think we need to take them literally ALL of the time.

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    Battman now says schools can reopen tomorrow.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0111/educationweather.html

    Very hard to make plans with the way this is being handled.
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