Irish Managers

[elatedscum]

I'd really need to watch the whole game again to see where exactly it went wrong again, but it really was going to plan since we went 1-0 up in that game too. Another set-piece goal, which was followed by two great chances for Daryl Murphy and James McClean. I remember the Danish equaliser was really lucky on their part. Cyrus Christie had a nightmare trying to clear and scored an own goal...

Just re-watched the highlights and Stephen Ward was atrocious for the second goal a few minutes later. Very poor for an experienced player. That concession just before half-time turned the game entirely. Two bad individual mistakes changed the complexion of the game and O'Neill clearly decided in the dressing room they had to go for it. A gamble that backfired spectacularly.

At the time, Ward had a really rough year prior to that and basically hadn't had a good game for us in that period and it was fairly obvious that he was done, and Brady should have been playing left back, which he had done previously for Ireland. Wes should also have started. Matt Doherty also hadn't been included in the squad despite being the best fullback in the championship.

From my memory, the first goal, Arter gets beaten a bit easily at the short corner, it goes to the back post and it's actually not going in, it's going straight off the back post to Randolph, where it hits Christie who is trying to react and clear. The second goal, Ward loses it really badly from our possession. Third goal is just caused by a gap in the midfield. Fourth is Ward making a hames of a clearance. Fifth was a stoppage time penalty.

[Predator]

At the time, Ward had a really rough year prior to that and basically hadn't had a good game for us in that period and it was fairly obvious that he was done, and Brady should have been playing left back, which he had done previously for Ireland. Wes should also have started. Matt Doherty also hadn't been included in the squad despite being the best fullback in the championship.

From my memory, the first goal, Arter gets beaten a bit easily at the short corner, it goes to the back post and it's actually not going in, it's going straight off the back post to Randolph, where it hits Christie who is trying to react and clear. The second goal, Ward loses it really badly from our possession. Third goal is just caused by a gap in the midfield. Fourth is Ward making a hames of a clearance. Fifth was a stoppage time penalty.

That game evidently burned into your memory, spot on recall.

[Kingdom]

It's come to pass anyway, Andrews in at Brentford.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/a...s/cn4lj9gv7lno

[pineapple stu]

Colour me very surprised, but I guess let's see how it goes.

Probably our two best players at the moment there (Kelleher and Collins) so could do without them getting dragged into a relegation battle in the coming season.

[seanfhear]

Colour me very surprised, but I guess let's see how it goes.

Probably our two best players at the moment there (Kelleher and Collins) so could do without them getting dragged into a relegation battle in the coming season.

Well, he can't get them promoted this season but the could win the league !

[EalingGreen]

Colour me very surprised, but I guess let's see how it goes.

Yep.

Btw, some interesting trivia on Irish managers from the BBC:

"Keith Andrews will become the first permanent Premier League manager from the Republic of Ireland since Chris Hughton left Brighton in 2019, and only the seventh in the competition's history.
Hughton, Mick McCarthy, Owen Coyle and David O'Leary, who were all born in the UK, are classified by Opta as being from the Republic of Ireland since they won caps for the country as players.
Excluding caretakers, and managers from Northern Ireland, Andrews will be just the third Irish-born boss to lead a Premier League club, alongside Joe Kinnear and Roy Keane.
Andrews and Keane have a bit of history, with the Manchester United legend making a disparaging remark about the Dubliner when he was named the Republic's assistant manager in 2020.
Keane spent a year and a half as a Premier League manager, winning 15 of 53 games with Sunderland, so Andrews could prove a bit of a point if he lasts longer with the Bees."

[seanfhear]

Did Grok ( X's AI ) miss out on any ?

1. Brendan Rodgers - Managed Liverpool (2012–2015) and Leicester City (2019–2023).
2. Iain Dowie - Managed Crystal Palace (2003–2006). Born in England but qualified for Northern Ireland through his Belfast-born father, earning 59 caps.
3. Lawrie Sanchez - Managed Fulham (2007).
4. Kieran McKenna - Managed Ipswich Town (2024–present). Born in England but raised in Northern Ireland and played for Northern Ireland at youth international level.

[tetsujin1979]

Martin O'Neill, the obvious one
Danny Wilson managed Barnsley and Sheffield Wednesday
Nigel Worthington with Norwich City

Pat Rice had a spell as caretaker at Arsenal

Brendan Rodgers also managed Swansea in the Premier League

[CraftyToePoke]

This is going to be interesting. Really hope it goes well ( while glancing at the first to be sacked odds in that division, I must admit )

[EalingGreen]

This is going to be interesting. Really hope it goes well ( while glancing at the first to be sacked odds in that division, I must admit )

Interesting statement from Phil Giles, who leads all the big appointment processes at Brentford:
https://www.brentfordfc.com/en/news/...ntment-process

For those unfamiliar with the name, Giles is one of the cleverst people in the English game, arguably the key figure in Brentford's rise after Matthew Benham (owner). He was originally recruited by Benham to work with him at Smart Odds (Benham's self-made online gambling and data company, and the source of his wealth and success.). And when he took over BFC, Benham immediately installed Giles in a senior position at the club, eventually becomoing the most senior.

I have no doubt that bigger clubs will have considered recruiting him, but would have been wasting their time (a ) because he firmly believes BFC haven't reached their ceiling yet, (b ) because of personal loyalty to Benham, and (c ) because Benham will have him on a MASSIVE wedge, possibly even incl shares in Smnart Odds etc(?).

In fact, being a proud Gerodie and Toon supporter, he may eventually be waiting for the right opportunity at Newcastle United, that's if the origins and nature of their present ownership don't deter him.