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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    Read that on BBC last night. Couldn't believe it.

    Sean back to Doncaster?
    It would be a step down if he went. By all accounts they might have scraped promotion under Saunders but they're not building a squad that could survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    It would be a step down if he went. By all accounts they might have scraped promotion under Saunders but they're not building a squad that could survive.
    A complete step down but when you get replaced by McLeish and then your old replacement gazumps a job you would walk into what should a man do?
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    Sean O'Driscoll has been appointed new manager of Bristol City: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21010274

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    Just saw him interviewed on SSN. Best of luck. Tough job. He'll get them out of it.
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    That's a tough task, six points from safety but with a game in hand. It looks to be three form four of Peterborough, Barnsley, Wednesday and Bristol down the bottom to me, I think Ipswich, Birmingham, Wolves & Bolton should have enough resource / stature to keep out of the dogfight. Maybe Huddersfield will be dragged in.

    If he keeps them in that division, fair play to him, he will deserve all the plaudits he gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke View Post
    That's a tough task, six points from safety but with a game in hand. It looks to be three form four of Peterborough, Barnsley, Wednesday and Bristol down the bottom to me, I think Ipswich, Birmingham, Wolves & Bolton should have enough resource / stature to keep out of the dogfight. Maybe Huddersfield will be dragged in.

    If he keeps them in that division, fair play to him, he will deserve all the plaudits he gets.
    I'm trying the blind optimism angle.

    I like Sean a lot. Always comes across really well and very level.
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    Feature on Sean O'Driscoll ahead of his first return to the City Ground on Saturday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21383094

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    Bristol City are at home, tough game for Forest. I was at SO'D last game at the City Ground...Forest fans did appreciate his work. Pity the crazy owners had other ideas.

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    Coyle sacked by Wigan: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...Dh9Is.facebook

    Second Irish manager in a week after O'Driscoll.

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    It was always going to be a tough job after Martinez, the highs of the FA Cup win, the exodus that comes with relegation and trying to manage Thursday night football with an already congested Championship calendar. Steve McClaren even sighted Wigan's European match the other night as an extra incentive for Derby to get into them early on. He had experience from his Middlesbrough days of how difficult it can be to perform after European football on the Thursday.

    I heard an interview with Mike Phelan recently, saying he was very interested to get into management and he was basically saying he would take anything, as long as he feels the structure and ambitions of the club are right. This would seem ideal for him location wise as well.

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    Sean O'Driscoll set to become assistant at Liverpool: http://www.theguardian.com/football/...P=share_btn_tw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Sean O'Driscoll set to become assistant at Liverpool: http://www.theguardian.com/football/...P=share_btn_tw
    Didn't even realise he had been with the England U19s.

    Fair dues for getting that job. Here's to Liverpool being relatively successful next season.
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    John Sheridan continues to perform miracles at Oldham. Pretty much down and out when he was appointed but he has now lifted them out of the relegation zone for the first time. A lot more work to do yet but he, Mick McCarthy and Chris Hughton continue to fly the green flag with great success.
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    Brian McDermott has 2 Irish parents, considers himself Irish, and supports Sligo Rovers apparently. That's more than enough for the passport office. Does he make our list?

    Also Gary Waddock. And Graham Kavanagh had a stint with Carlisle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    Brian McDermott has 2 Irish parents, considers himself Irish, and supports Sligo Rovers apparently. That's more than enough for the passport office. Does he make our list?

    Also Gary Waddock. And Graham Kavanagh had a stint with Carlisle.
    Only two fly the tricolour https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eague_managers
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    Lack of ROI born/raised football managers in England

    Does anyone know the reason for this?

    Since the PL era began there have been countless Scottish born managers in the Premier League and all down the divisions.

    Despite the similarities in population and # of pros within England, Ireland has produced a dearth of managers in the four divisions.

    What ones there have been haven't sustained much of a career.

    I can think of Roy Keane, David O'Leary, Graham Kavanagh, Joe Dunne, Steve Staunton.

    This leads to a shortage of suitable candidates for the national team job.

    The prospects within the domestic game don't inspire much confidence either with managers continuing to be out-thought in European competition.

    Obviously, there are diasporic managers such as Mick McCarthy, Chris Hughton and Sean O'Driscoll but even they pale in comparison to the plethora of Scottish managers.

    And there have been several NI born managers such as Neil Lennon, Brendan Rodgers and Michael O'Neill but they are (ex) NI internationals and I don't believe they feel the same pull to Irish national team or its candidacy.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Does anyone know the reason for this?

    Since the PL era began there have been countless Scottish born managers in the Premier League and all down the divisions.

    Despite the similarities in population and # of pros within England, Ireland has produced a dearth of managers in the four divisions.

    What ones there have been haven't sustained much of a career.

    I can think of Roy Keane, David O'Leary, Graham Kavanagh, Joe Dunne, Steve Staunton.

    This leads to a shortage of suitable candidates for the national team job.

    The prospects within the domestic game don't inspire much confidence either with managers continuing to be out-thought in European competition.

    Obviously, there are diasporic managers such as Mick McCarthy, Chris Hughton and Sean O'Driscoll but even they pale in comparison to the plethora of Scottish managers.

    And there have been several NI born managers such as Neil Lennon, Brendan Rodgers and Michael O'Neill but they are (ex) NI internationals and I don't believe they feel the same pull to Irish national team or its candidacy.

    Thoughts?
    I did not realise Staunton had any experience in management.

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    Leicester assistant manager Steve Walsh is the centre of a tug of war with Everton at the moment, who have targeted him because of his success in finding some of the team that won the league. But I only realised today that he is a brother of Mickey Walsh, ex Blackpool, Everton and QPR.

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