Linfield pull out of Setanta Cup

[Not Brazil]

NB, agreement was reached after that AFAIK.

I'll take your word on that MK, but I can tell you, as of right now, no monies have been received.

[Flexy]

Fed up with this Linfield carry on a club who gets £400k + from the IFA annually and also had to rerarrange the fixture last year against Derry because Norn ireland had a game against sweden two nights later. Im fed up listening to Linfield club moaning about this and that, yous rule the Irish league with your mickey mouse tactics now your trying to rule the setanta cup. LOI clubs had to commence the competion last yr before the their season started to facilitate them, DJ of Linfield always moaning about fatigue here fatigue their, why dont they give up the meaningless county antrim shield and play in a bigger competiton and stop their whinging.

[Flexy]

I'll take your word on that MK, but I can tell you, as of right now, no monies have been received.

I can tell you now DCFC the new club have tried to contact Linfield on 4 occassions to pay the amount owing not once after voicemail messages has a member of Linfield got back to the club. It is a publicity stunt again by the blues to make them look the good guys

[A N Mouse]

So would I. But that's not what Linfield are doing.

But that's exactly what they're doing brendy.

Basically they're saying "we don't trust setanta to do the right thing" and if Derry are allowed to play, then "we'll pull out".

But as has been pointed out they've never been happy with the thing.

[Krstic]

[QUOTE=EalingGreen;1300397]
Sorry, but until someone pays LFC the money they are owed, they are quite entitled to do whatever the Hell they like, including declining to accept their Invitation [sic] to compete from Setanta.

What you simply cannot get away from is that if the new guys at the Brandywell want to benefit from their predecessors' Invitation to the Setanta Ball, then they (new guys) need to pay for the predecessors' ticket. Literally.[/QUOTE]

Again you're spot on but surely you can see that Linfield are using two contradicting arguments for not wanting to play us.
On one hand they say they won't play Derry City as they owe Linfield money. Which is fair play. And then on top of that they refuse to play Derry City anyway because we're a new club. So in other words they won't play Derry City whether they get paid or not.

My own opinion is that we should not only be turfed from the Setanta but also the league. But as a Derry fan I'll take every break we're given.

[brendy_éire]

But that's exactly what they're doing brendy.

Basically they're saying "we don't trust setanta to do the right thing" and if Derry are allowed to play, then "we'll pull out".

It's not. They haven't suggested that themselves and Pats play out the rest of the group with our results expunged, which is what would happen in the LoI. They just said that they're not playing any more games regardless.

[CSFShels]

Fed up with this Linfield carry on a club who gets £400k + from the IFA annually and also had to rerarrange the fixture last year against Derry because Norn ireland had a game against sweden two nights later. Im fed up listening to Linfield club moaning about this and that, yous rule the Irish league with your mickey mouse tactics now your trying to rule the setanta cup. LOI clubs had to commence the competion last yr before the their season started to facilitate them, DJ of Linfield always moaning about fatigue here fatigue their, why dont they give up the meaningless county antrim shield and play in a bigger competiton and stop their whinging.

This has nothing to do with the fact that Derry City have acted like crooks for the last few years and should have no bearing on it. Linfield are dead right here.

[old git]

This has nothing to do with the fact that Derry City have acted like crooks for the last few years and should have no bearing on it. Linfield are dead right here.

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[Not Brazil]

I can tell you now DCFC the new club have tried to contact Linfield on 4 occassions to pay the amount owing not once after voicemail messages has a member of Linfield got back to the club. It is a publicity stunt again by the blues to make them look the good guys

Not having that, I'm afraid.

Is it not the case that Linfield FC are listed as a creditor of "old" Derry City, and the debt will be the responsibility of the Administrator dealing with the case?

[dcfcsteve]

Not having that, I'm afraid.

Is it not the case that Linfield FC are listed as a creditor of "old" Derry City, and the debt will be the responsibility of the Administrator dealing with the case?

If that's the case, then why did Linfield report in the Cliftonvile programme that they had been approached by the Friends of Derry City and were making progress on the issue ? Why didn't they just refuse to speak with FODC and deal with the Administrators instead ? :?

It's a different story for Linfield every time the issue gets mentioned. They clearly weant everything their own way - you'd be forgiven for thinking they'd be happy without the money if it meant they could have something else to cry about....

[Not Brazil]

If that's the case, then why did Linfield report in the Cliftonvile programme that they had been approached by the Friends of Derry City and were making progress on the issue ? Why didn't they just refuse to speak with FODC and deal with the Administrators instead ? :?

Could it be the case that the FODC have muted that they will make good the difference between what Linfield get from the Administrator and what we were owed by the "old" Derry City FC?

[dcfcsteve]

Could it be the case that the FODC have muted that they will make good the difference between what Linfield get from the Administrator and what we were owed by the "old" Derry City FC?

Or could it be - Henry the Janitor....?

Do you know the answer to your own question heren, cuz I sure as hell don't ? If not, then it's just pointless conjecture.

The point stands though. You can't cry about being owed money by someone you're in contact with about that money, and then when they point out that they've been trying to contact you over it state 'oh but we'll only deal with the Administrators' over it.

Linfield trying to have everything their own way. Just another excuse for a good cry.

[Not Brazil]

The point stands though. You can't cry about being owed money by someone you're in contact with about that money, and then when they point out that they've been trying to contact you over it state 'oh but we'll only deal with the Administrators' over it.

Linfield trying to have everything their own way. Just another excuse for a good cry.

Who has stated "we'll only deal with the Administrators over it"?

We want our money owed to us in full - don't care who pays it!

I think it's "new" Derry City having a good cry tonight after losing their big, £50,000, pay day.

[dcfcsteve]

Who has stated "we'll only deal with the Administrators over it"?

Err -y uo were the onme who asserted that arguement. Probably just more idle speculation on your part again in fairness.

I think it's "new" Derry City having a good cry tonight after losing their big, £50,000, pay day.

The views of a couple of fans do not a club maketh.

Unless, of course, it's Sporting Fingal......

[Not Brazil]

Fed up with this Linfield carry on a club who gets £400k + from the IFA annually

For how many years have we been getting "£400k +" from the IFA under our contract for usage of our stadium with them Flexy?

Please enlighten us.

[Not Brazil]

Err -y uo were the onme who asserted that arguement. Probably just more idle speculation on your part again in fairness.

I'm not dealing in arguements, just trying to establish the facts - are Linfield FC listed as a creditor of "old" Derry City or not?

What proposals have FODC placed before Linfield FC for settlement of the debt owed to Linfield FC by "old" Derry City FC?

[dcfcsteve]

I'm not dealing in arguements, just trying to establish the facts - are Linfield FC listed as a creditor of "old" Derry City or not?

What proposals have FODC placed before Linfield FC for settlement of the debt owed to Linfield FC by "old" Derry City FC?

As I'm sure you well know, a forum for football fans of numerous/competing clubs is often the last place worth visiting to establish facts.

If you want to know the facts, don't come on here demanding answers from ordinary fans. Contact the clubs concerned, or better still - just hold your water and see what comes out in the wash. 'All good thanks', and all that...

[Mr_Parker]

I can tell you now DCFC the new club have tried to contact Linfield on 4 occassions to pay the amount owing not once after voicemail messages has a member of Linfield got back to the club. It is a publicity stunt again by the blues to make them look the good guys

How many times have they phoned Cliftonville?

Promises, promises......

[OneRedArmy]

I'm not dealing in arguements, just trying to establish the facts - are Linfield FC listed as a creditor of "old" Derry City or not?

That is completely and wholly within the control of Linfield as to whether they have lodged their claim as creditor with the administrator.

What proposals have FODC placed before Linfield FC for settlement of the debt owed to Linfield FC by "old" Derry City FC?

They won't be "settling" any debt, as that's not really kosher under company law. Any payment would be an ex gratia amount by an
unconnected THIRD party.

As for what you'll get from the official liquidation, the square root of sfa I would imagine.

[OneRedArmy]

How many times have they phoned Cliftonville?

Promises, promises......

Did Cliftonville lodge the contract relating to the Celtic friendly with the administrator to establish creditor status?