QuoteApologies, that was a bad error on my behalf but you're clutching at straws. What about the rest of themOriginally Posted by yapster
mentioned.
Genuine supporters like u who just spent their time bitching and moaning is it?
Its really not that complicated!!!
Apologies, that was a bad error on my behalf but you're clutching at straws. What about the rest of them
mentioned.
Last edited by TrapAPony; 10/01/2010 at 1:28 AM.
Ireland:
Kevin Foley
Kevin Kilbane
Aiden McGeady
Sean St.Ledger
Steven Reid
Darren Gibson
Liam Lawrence
Leon Best
Caleb Folan
Martin Rowlands
Ciaran Westwood
Call up people whose parent(s) are Irish or who have grown up here.
Ireland is probably the biggest exploiter of the rule in football.
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Last edited by irishultra; 10/01/2010 at 1:39 AM.
Only 6 from that list were in the squad for the play off games and Gibson is not part of that list, he is automatically entitled to Irish citizenship.
EastTerracer's list demonstrates that our use of the dual nationality eligibility bears fair comparison to its use by 7 of those countries at Euro 2008.
Having Gibson in that list is a disgrace.
Posting the list in the first place is a disgrace.
The standards on the forum really are dropping lately. Instead of rational discussion, it's turning into angry pointless ranting.
Why haven't the mods done anything about this?
Standards dropped overall lately? The tone utterly lowered. Undoubtedly. Hardly a coincidence given that it has occurred with the emergence of this 'yapster' character trying to take over the entire forum, spread his inane views and and go on a selfish, uninhibited wind up spree that is regressive for all concerned. Its all just getting really, really grating and I'm starting to lose faith this entire forum
Have you ever thought that the reason that Ireland have been so successful at "exploiting" the Parent/Grandparent rule might be because of the national pride that these players have in the first place? Players like Foley, Kilbane, St Ledger, McGeady and Best have been brought up in proud Irish families within proud Irish Communities (I can't comment on the rest as I do not know enough about their backgrounds). It is easy to snipe about their legitimacy, however to wear the shirt with pride as a Kid is a big statement of their identity - especially when surrounded by England/Scotland fans at a time in your life when most Kids just want to be part of the pack, which I'm sure all of these lads did - their commitment to the cause should never be questioned.
Last edited by Manc Irish Wolf; 10/01/2010 at 12:19 PM.
"The richest man in the world is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least"
only explanation is we're at stage 4...
My sentiments exactly.
Surely not the only explanation.
On occasion and for indefinite periods, strange creatures masquerading as Irish fans have been spotted crawling out from their place of refuge.
Then having Vedran Corluka on the list of 'foreign' Croatians is a disgrace. That is why I mentioned him(Gibson)
Last edited by irishultra; 10/01/2010 at 6:42 PM.
REPLY TO YAPSTER
"Sad to see Ireland going down the 'Grannyrule' crap again"
Even sadder to see the likes of you come out of the woodwork with such statements, as you invariably do!
haha I only just noticed this
Coincidence, I promise!
how many associations in the world own their own stadiums?
id say its less than 10%, if even. most are owned by clubs or the city authorities, national government etc.
The FAI will shortly jointly own their own stadium so that puts them ahead of most.
your assertion that the FAI is a joke from top to bottom is the real joke. yes, they make headlines for the wrong reasons from time to time but for such a small organisation they actually do a large amount of great work at grass roots level etc.
make yapster go away he makes baby jesus cry
There’s an interesting move in the eligibility that is happening in Ireland, for a century and a half Ireland had net emigration and so the players that qualified were sons and grandsons of Irish emigrants, the eligibility and commitment of players like Kilbane could never imo be questioned, there have been others that have convinced me less about their desire and/or reasons to wear the shirt but as an emigrant myself I can honestly say it would be my absolute preference for my kids to represent Ireland above anywhere else.
The interesting shift comes in because from 1995/6 through to the last 12 months there was a net inward flow of Migrants, of course some of them were returning emigrants but there are now a lot of non-national born Irish citizens who (like the lad originally from the DRC) are qualified to play for ROI.
Looking at the list of players for France, Germany, Portugal (and while the Dutch had none this time there have been plenty in the past) they are countries who had large migrant populations and to a large degree they have reaped the benefit of it.
I wonder if in 10 years time this debate will be about players born in DRC or Poland or Nigeria representing Ireland.
"Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king"
Sideshow Bob
I think the key difference here is how ireland has gone about to try and ensure that these feel welcome and are integrated into society. These have seen the adverse effects of mass emigration to certain spots of the UK and tried to ensure that doesn't happen in ireland.
Another big thing is the immigrants in Ireland moved all over the country, to little towns and villages working in shops, hotels, on building sites etc. In a small town it is very difficult not to integrate or to become known amongst the locals, especially the way irish people are.
I feel all this will help integrate the offspring of these immigrants and make them feel as Irish as seamus o'shea.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
I ceratinly hope you're right Paul.
"Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king"
Sideshow Bob
Ya, we can only hope, that they identify as Irish first, polish/nigerian/whatever creed or race second. Plastics identify as Irish only.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
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