Fair point. All the sports that score high on the 'nerve' category are those with a more significant risk of injury / death.Originally Posted by the 12 th man
Methinks I should have looked at the ratings a bit more carefully.
I think you need to stop reading comic books!!!
No mention of tactical nouse, supreme fitness, cat like reflexes, stamina of a Spartan and the speed of a cheetah!
If it was all about brute strength and punch power then you would see meatheads like Mariusz Pudzianowski and Brock Lesnar would be top boxers - hmmm! wonder what lame "sport" they decided to get involved with!
Last edited by sligobhoy67; 03/01/2010 at 7:51 PM.
With all due respect, I'd have to disagree with that.
Bernard Dunne and Wayne McCullough are two examples of two boxers who don't have a decent punch. Listen to Dunne's interview with RTE about how he hit Poonsawat some great shots and didn't budge him. Yet Poonsawat ended the fight as a contest with the first punch he landed. Yes, training can help timing and technique, but not power.
As for the chin, just look at Roy Jones Jnr. He was so outrageously gifted he almost made it through his entire career without anybody discovering he had very little resistance to a good punch. Again, training can help your body and legs be strong to help absorb it, but like punching, there is only so much training can give you.
Last edited by osarusan; 03/01/2010 at 8:14 PM.
re. boxing, you can't "build up a chin" you have it or you don't. Punch power, you can only punch as hard as your body will allow. It's a simple matter of physics for the latter - force = mass x acceleration. The faster you punch the harder you hit. Ali concussed most people with his jab as it was lightning fast. Tyson knocked people over early in his career for 2 reasons, 1. they were punchbags, 2. he hit them quicker than most heavyweights could. It's the most disheartening thing to hear from someone before a fight "He doesn't have a punch on him" which could mean he'll run and hide and be battered, or he'll pick you off with rapid shots while you wait to unload. But chin is there or it isn't, and anyway, no matter how "hard" your chin is, it can't stand up to a snappy hook or flailing haymaker if it catches you right!
Cycling is a massively tough sport, up there with marathon running, but cheating makes them both look suspect. Boxing is tougher than and homoerotic fare that goes on down in the O2 with big muscly men oiled up and rolling around in short shorts (not knocking it for those who like it, but it just looks like my local on a Friday night after closing, without the shorts and oil, and with Dunnes denims and Penneys t-shirts).
Tennis isn't an easy sport, especially for those who win a few matches. Apart from endless practice, in tournament you'll have 3 x 2 hour matches and still only make a quarter final in a minor event, yet on average you sweat off heaps and make a pittance. But again drugs make the top levels a bit suspect though the sport still is tough.
NH racing must be the toughest.
ESPN writers can have fun too!.
resuming drinking in the evening, after a couple of hours pause, when you were drinking all afternoon is the toughest sport i ever did.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Rowing 39th? It should be top 10 easily. Very tough endurance sport.
You've got no fans.
Are there any easy endurance sports? I mean the worrd endurance is a bit of a giveaway
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You know that's not my point.
You've got no fans.
David Haye doesn't like to get hit, to build up his chin he's perfected the art of hit and run, or hit and swamp! Though maybe there's a new "formula" to build up a chin.
More to the point, a weak chin means weak neck and nervous system (plus the toughest chin doesn't protect against a sneaky left hook), but maybe new techniques have changed this.
David Haye has only ever fought two punchers and was KO'd and wobbled (Carl the cat Thompson and Morbeck). As soon as he fights somebody with a decent whack he'll be levelled.
If you could add strength to your whiskers Amir Khan would be overdosing on it.
I'm delighted you said that. Cause you are so wrong you wouldn't believe it. Rowing is one of the most technically demanding sports in the world. Do you row? Obviously not or you'd know this. Physically it puts a strain on nearly every muscle in your body, particulary your thigh muscles, as is the same with cycling.
Stop making assumptions, you clearly haven't a clue
Sure ya just need to be strong for boxing.
Last edited by MMVIII; 05/01/2010 at 4:25 PM.
I think you need to reread my posts. Granted you need massive lung and endurance capacity but in my opinion there is little in terms of sporting skill required for these sports.I'm delighted you said that. Cause you are so wrong you wouldn't believe it. Rowing is one of the most technically demanding sports in the world. Do you row? Obviously not or you'd know this. Physically it puts a strain on nearly every muscle in your body, particulary your thigh muscles, as is the same with cycling.
Stop making assumptions, you clearly haven't a clue
Sure ya just need to be strong for boxing.
but as ARooney said - there is a lot of sporting skill and technique involved in rowing. Hugely - from singles to eights, coxed or coxless (ooh er!)
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
I understand his point and I dont fully disagree with him. Its just I think it takes more skills to get to the top in others sports than it does in sports like rowing, cycling and marathon running.
But your wrong. Your just "presuming" again. I'll say it again for you, rowing is one of the most technically demanding and physically demanding sports in the world. Believe me, I know what I am talking about, whereas you don't.
For the record, I'd have it in the top 3 toughest sports in the world, along with cycling.
No YOU are presuming that I am presuming but I aint presuming - how Presumptuous!!!
You are also presuming that I dont know what I am talking about with regards the sports but how the fúck, pardon my French, do you know what experience I have in these sports. I have competed in both sports you mention at community games and local level - granted neither is a high level but its given me an indication about what is invloved.
You obviously admire these sports and hold them in high regards and whilst I recognise the level of athleticism I just think a lot of other sports require more strings to the bow. Obviously the panel that ESPN employeed agreed with me!
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