Bohs SCP discussion

[marinobohs]

Rovers have activly supported foras in Cork and Drogs moves to become a community club ,Bohs are the only club refusing enter the real world

If you are suggesting that the situation at Cork is better than the situation at Bohs then you are seriously deluded and I would recommend you ask any Cork fan about it. Still a lack of clarity around Drogs current position so difficult to comment too definitively, my point was that shams don't appear too concerned about (possible/alledged/etc) breaches of finanacial regulations there thus showing the "concern" about Bohs alledged transgretions to be little more than oppurtunism.
by the way, unlike shams I would wish nothing but the best for all clubs in finanacial difficulties (real or imagined) we are all in the League together.

Bohemian FC is a member owned club slightly (!!!!!) longer than shams so if Cork or Drogheda want any advice I doubt they will go to a club that previously slagged off member owned clubs in their match day programme.

[marinobohs]

So if you are such a big club where are your trophies from the last few years and why can't you afford your own ground?
Just a point. Whatever about calling us a small club, Pats have had much more success than you over the last few years.
This "small club v big club" argument is a joke in the league of Ireland context when every club is only one bad season away from disaster.
Surely you must know that by now.

Dont believe in small clubs in the League (all have a history, fanbase etc and add something to the League) but there are certainly a few small minds about

[wexfordned]

Rovers have activly supported foras in Cork and Drogs moves to become a community club ,Bohs are the only club refusing enter the real world

if that includes allowing racist fans & hooligan directors then tell us how, oh great leader

[Jicked]

Trust me there is no misjudgement at all around the "interest" taken by Shams in relation to Bohs. It is almost exclusively petty, small minded gossip reguritated from the bowels of the always-ultra website or wishful thinking by begruders.)

Can you not accept that the ultras messageboard quite clearly posted details of the Fenlon/Dundee Utd story before they became public knowledge the whole way through. There's cold hard facts to back that up, it simply can't be brushed aside as bs. So if they were proved right about all other aspects of that deal, could they not also be correct about the final one? I say they could be believed at this stage having been proved to have insider knowledge the whole way through. If it is true, then I'm sorry but it does raise serious questions as to Bohs budget for this season. How can you not see this and just brush it aside as idle speculation and nothing to be worried about?

[wexfordned]

Can you not accept that the ultras messageboard quite clearly posted details of the Fenlon/Dundee Utd story before they became public knowledge the whole way through. There's cold hard facts to back that up, it simply can't be brushed aside as bs. So if they were proved right about all other aspects of that deal, could they not also be correct about the final one? I say they could be believed at this stage having been proved to have insider knowledge the whole way through. If it is true, then I'm sorry but it does raise serious questions as to Bohs budget for this season. How can you not see this and just brush it aside as idle speculation and nothing to be worried about?

That's not actually true. (Couldn't be bothered going to through the thread to were this was pointed out previously), but the again that isn't any different to the majority of posts by Shamrock fans on this thread.

Thread title should just be changed to Bohs/Fenlon Rumours or alternatively What's going on at Bohs courtesy of Shamrock's fans.

[Dalymountrower]

[QUOTE=Jicked;1311794]Can you not accept that the ultras messageboard quite clearly posted details of the Fenlon/Dundee Utd story before they became public knowledge the whole way through.

Ì`ve no idea as your message board has been private members access only for some time now. The last time I had access to it they were ridiculing the notion that PF would be considered for the job by DUFC

There's cold hard facts to back that up, it simply can't be brushed aside as bs.

Now we`re getting somewhere , cold hard facts....and they are?

So if they were proved right about all other aspects of that deal, could they not also be correct about the final one?QUOTE]

Proved right about which rumour? That Fenlon can walk free from Bohs for breach of contract?
or
Fenlon stays with Bohs after getting 90k bonus paid?
or
Fenlon signs two year deal with DUFC?

None of the above rumours have come to pass.
We`ve also had to put up with dross from Hooped rumour mongers aided and abetted by some Stillorgan Road Tech perennial undegrads on this Forum about our budgets being based on three trophy wins and dodgey deals with Development companies to evade the SCP, being sued by Liam Carroll, not getting a fee for Deegan etc etc etc . Each and every one a malicious fabrication, so I think we can be forgiven for being sceptical about any "rumours" coming from a hooped direction.

I think its regrettable that the focus of this thread has been on responding to the unsubstantiated rumours/lies rather than on the real achievement of ordinary League of Ireland fans in raising tens of thousands of Euro in 2009 to keep our club successfully in business against the odds within the 2009 SCP.

[marinobohs]

Can you not accept that the ultras messageboard quite clearly posted details of the Fenlon/Dundee Utd story before they became public knowledge the whole way through. There's cold hard facts to back that up, it simply can't be brushed aside as bs. So if they were proved right about all other aspects of that deal, could they not also be correct about the final one? I say they could be believed at this stage having been proved to have insider knowledge the whole way through. If it is true, then I'm sorry but it does raise serious questions as to Bohs budget for this season. How can you not see this and just brush it aside as idle speculation and nothing to be worried about?

the always ultras message board is somewhere I have never been or want to be but the "details" posted here were that Bohs were in breach of contract and that Nutsey WOULD walk for free.
Now whatever world you are living in this did not occur on Planet Earth.
it is true that there was some outstanding bonuses, but this was, believe it or not, known beyond the confines of Tallaght
Those of us who did not accept the above (bolded) line will hardly accept any more "facts" from such an unreliable source.

PS wrong thread but as long as it is having a go at Bohs.......

[pól-dcfc]

the always ultras message board is somewhere I have never been or want to be but the "details" posted here were that Bohs were in breach of contract and that Nutsey WOULD walk for free.

Yeah, well, it hasn't, um, not happened yet, has it?

[John83]

We`ve also had to put up with dross from Hooped rumour mongers aided and abetted by some Stillorgan Road Tech perennial undegrads on this Forum...

I realise that someone who can't tell a university from a technical college can't really be expected to be able to count, but Pineapple Stu is, in spite of his finest creative accounting, still just one person.

[marinobohs]

Yeah, well, it hasn't, um, not happened yet, has it?

Ehhhhh whats the question again ? my point was that what was predicted by the shams (Nutsey would go to Dundee for nothing due to breach of contract) did not happen. This was in response to post claiming the shams "rumour machine" was accurate.

[marinobohs]

I realise that someone who can't tell a university from a technical college can't really be expected to be able to count, but Pineapple Stu is, in spite of his finest creative accounting, still just one person.

Sure arent yisser all the same To be fair some posters here have raised fair questions and some bohs posters have tried to respond (with our limited knowledge) but unfortunately the wind up merchants made a farce of it with unsubstanciated rubbish.
Nobody from UCD would ever indulge in WUMMING

[hoopy]

Bohemian FC is a member owned club slightly (!!!!!) longer than shams so if Cork or Drogheda want any advice I doubt they will go to a club that previously slagged off member owned clubs in their match day programme.

So that must've been an imaginary meeting up in Drogheda where some of our board spoke to Drogheda fans? Also fairy tale stuff that Foras have been getting advice from same people? None of this happened of course, both clubs are waiting to approach Bohs.

[Dalymountrower]

I realise that someone who can't tell a university from a technical college can't really be expected to be able to count, but Pineapple Stu is, in spite of his finest creative accounting, still just one person.

I agree, if i`d gone to a Tech my numerative skills might be a bit better, sadly I went to Belfield, undergraduate and post -graduate. That means I reserve the right to slag it off

[Rovers1]

So that must've been an imaginary meeting up in Drogheda where some of our board spoke to Drogheda fans? Also fairy tale stuff that Foras have been getting advice from same people?.

But sure every club wants to know how to get someone else to pay off all your debts and a free stadium to go with it!

[marinobohs]

So that must've been an imaginary meeting up in Drogheda where some of our board spoke to Drogheda fans? Also fairy tale stuff that Foras have been getting advice from same people? None of this happened of course, both clubs are waiting to approach Bohs.

We are all aware that shams "invented" the members owned club in 2005 (previous quotes about 50 pound directors were the OTHER crowd ) I never said either club was waiting to approach Bohs just suggested that a club which previously slagged off memebers owned clubs is hardly the place to go for advice about same.
Perhaps (given experience here) shams think membership entitles them to run every club in the League but afraid it isn't true.

[RoversHead]

But sure every club wants to know how to get someone else to pay off all your debts and a free stadium to go with it!

Step one would be to become Irelands most succesful football club thus creating a sporting institution that just enough people wont let die ,throw in a couple of decades of blood sweat and tears from those individuals and a bit of luck then you might just have enough trojan fans left who would take out personal loans to try and wrangle a deal with the revenue and other creditors,at this point if you have become an integral part of a huge working class community through educational and sporting scholarships ,charity work etc and you have grown your schoolboy section in said area well the local council just might see it in their intrest to finish a ground for ya,

[Rovers1]

Step one would be to become Irelands most succesful football club thus creating a sporting institution that just enough people wont let die ,throw in a couple of decades of blood sweat and tears from those individuals and a bit of luck then you might just have enough trojan fans left who would take out personal loans to try and wrangle a deal with the revenue and other creditors,at this point if you have become an integral part of a huge working class community through educational and sporting scholarships ,charity work etc and you have grown your schoolboy section in said area well the local council just might see it in their intrest to finish a ground for ya,

I don't care. I still don't like ye.

[RoversHead]

I don't care. I still don't like ye.

By the way we pay an anual six figure rent ,free stadium yeah right.

[RoversHead]

We do all that. For free.

Dont remember anything like our situation happening in sligo,when was that?

[Rovers1]

Dont remember anything like our situation happening in sligo,when was that?

No, we never had to leave The Showgrounds.