Bohs SCP discussion

**Mr A** · 21/01/2010, 11:25 AM

The difference is €42k nased on last year's figures. Not a massive amount in fairness.

Premier Division

1. €280,000
2. €130,000
3. €82,000
4. €60,000
5. €50,000
6. €47,000
7. €45,000
8. €42,000
9. €41,000
10. €40,000

From Irish Times

**Rovers1** · 21/01/2010, 12:13 PM

I'd rather Bohs cheat their way to one hundred league titles than ever see Shams win it.

Just a point....

**OneRedArmy** · 21/01/2010, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rovers1

I'd rather Bohs cheat their way to one hundred league titles than ever see Shams win it.

Just a point....

Some quality FF thinking there....

**CMcC** · 21/01/2010, 1:47 PM

Originally Posted by BYCTWD

But only last week the Bozo brigade were calling us liars for saying that this was going to be a problem with their budget process....

Does anyone know what the third placed prizemoney is? That minus 40k is the minimum hole Bohs have to plug. Could be a couple of hundred grand. Whoops.

Thats not really the point. Its bad practice and they are the only club trying to engage in it. Also Bohs outbid other clubs for players based on that projection. All people want is a level playing field, which to be fair to the FAI they appear to be imposing in this case.

Whoops its not as big a deal as you hoped now is it? And now because its only €42K its suddenly not the point anymore? Is that it? Superb stuff

**Ashbohs** · 21/01/2010, 1:52 PM

One could argue that all league clubs being bailed out by their local councils in terms of facilities would be a level playing field.No.One thing is for certain there is no one at Bohs worried about Rovers on or off the field.Doesnt seem to be the same at rovers though

**PartySaint** · 21/01/2010, 2:21 PM

Just to go off-topic for a moment,

Premier Division

1. €280,000
2. €130,000
3. €82,000
4. €60,000
5. €50,000
6. €47,000
7. €45,000
8. €42,000
9. €41,000
10. €40,000

We finished 7th last season but with the whole Derry situation we ended up in 6th, Does anyone know if we get the extra 2k??

EnglishSource · 21/01/2010, 2:28 PM

Originally Posted by CMcC

Whoops its not as big a deal as you hoped now is it? And now because its only €42K its suddenly not the point anymore?

I don't swallow the spin in that article. The sum involved has to be more than that, doubt the FAI would be splitting hairs over a difference of less than a grand a week in projected income, especially when this income would make little difference to cash flow over the course of the season, as it's only paid out when the season is finished.

**CMcC** · 21/01/2010, 2:56 PM

Originally Posted by BYCTWD

Not at all - the opposite in fact. Yes, its less than I assumed because they went for first last year and third this year, but the principal remains. €45k in this instance is still a player they will have to do without.

But the real issue here is that this proved that Rovers fans DO actually know more about whats going on in D7 than the black and tans on here.... Look at the zeal in which they denied that prizemoney was being budgeted for earlier in the week! It was, as we were told, all lies and Gerry told them that they weren't doing it at a meeting. Plus the embargo is still in place.

All is not well in the Pigsboro camp and this is a significant blow for them ahead of the inquest into last years shenanigans. It would appear the FAI have grown balls and that is not good for as shoddily run an outfit as Biggles FC.

Black and Tans, Pigsboro, Biggles FC...is this a new language?

I personally dont see how this is a signigicant blow to anyone. So they go back with a budget less 42K over the year? Or they come up with a projected 42K income stream from somewhere else? I know you really want it to be a huge body blow and you really wanted it to be a much bigger hole and you really really want Bohs relegated and want the transfer embargo to be kept in force but lets be honest here - none of that is going to happen now is it?

As for the FAI growing balls. I would tend to believe its the FAI saying to Bohs something like - listen lads we really have to knock you back to be seen to be the hard man here. I dont think we could get away with letting you budget for a 3rd place finish (quite reasonable IMO) as your friends in Tallaght will have a right moan and call us out in the press again so off with you now and pop back with that taken out of the budget. Once you do that lads, we will sign off the accounts and you are free to sign who you like. Is that fair lads? Ok Mr Delaney - see you next week so.

I think you are wishing way to hard and it is maybe clouding your judgement just a tad on this.

**blackholesun** · 21/01/2010, 3:02 PM

If you consider the 40 baseline prizemoney as a TV money share or as a refund of your entry fees then the real prizemoney table looks like this

1. €240,000
2. €130,000
3. €42,000
4. €20,000
5. €10,000
6. €7,000
7. €5,000
8. €2,000
9. €1,000
10. €0,000

which is crazy as it actively encourages clubs to gamble! This should be reformed ASAP with more money going into the first division.

bhs

**marinobohs** · 22/01/2010, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by BYCTWD

Well I hate to say I told you so, but I bleedin' did!!

Was away on business so missed all the fun ! Imagine my shock/horror when I returned to see the above

surely this must mean -

Bohs have been stripped of the title and relegated (as predicted)? NOPE.
Bohs included prize money for all throphies in 2010 budget (as predicted) ? NAH
Will not be allowed in Champs Lge? NOPE AGAIN
Points deduction for 2010 season 9as predicted) ?. FRAID NOT
Messrs Cretaro and Gray will have to be released and join a small club in Tallaght they already rejected ? NOT A CHANCE
Barry Murphy will have to return to club he already rejected ? NOPE
Nutsey (and Bohs defence) off to Dundee (as predicted) ? DONT BE SILLY
FAI ask Bohs to revisit budget because they are "near" 65% (shock, horror - FAI change own rules ) to provide "buffer" (whatever that is) ? Yep, thats about it.

Oh, what a joy it must be for our sham friends, and what great consolation it will be over a long season watching Bohs wrap up the three-in-a-row title (pretty much guaranteed now you predicted midtable mediocrity)

**topia** · 22/01/2010, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Was away on business so missed all the fun ! Imagine my shock/horror when I returned to see the above

surely this must mean -

Bohs have been stripped of the title and relegated (as predicted)? NOPE.
Bohs included prize money for all throphies in 2010 budget (as predicted) ? NAH
Will not be allowed in Champs Lge? NOPE AGAIN
Points deduction for 2010 season 9as predicted) ?. FRAID NOT
Messrs Cretaro and Gray will have to be released and join a small club in Tallaght they already rejected ? NOT A CHANCE
Barry Murphy will have to return to club he already rejected ? NOPE
Nutsey (and Bohs defence) off to Dundee (as predicted) ? DONT BE SILLY
FAI ask Bohs to revisit budget because they are "near" 65% (shock, horror - FAI change own rules ) to provide "buffer" (whatever that is) ? Yep, thats about it.

Oh, what a joy it must be for our sham friends, and what great consolation it will be over a long season watching Bohs wrap up the three-in-a-row title (pretty much guaranteed now you predicted midtable mediocrity)

Fair play i actually didnt think anyone was going to manage to muster the energy to reply to him this time!

**Jicked** · 22/01/2010, 12:02 PM

So Bohs fans aren't worried at all about having their well planned out budget rejected by the FAI? Months after being hit with a transfer embargo for being in a precarious financial position? Weeks after having to stump up a figure thought to be around 90k to Fenlon in unpaid bonuses that they'd put off for over a year?

**SkStu** · 22/01/2010, 1:59 PM

Originally Posted by BYCTWD

I think what is telling here is the pattern. The complete inability of those running Biggles FC to do anything at any level correctly. Across the board.

what is telling here is your complete inability to make an accurate prediction (despite sounding like you know what youre talking about) or the inability of your sources to stop exaggerating. It makes you look a fool.

**marinobohs** · 22/01/2010, 2:12 PM

Originally Posted by BYCTWD

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I never suggested that. I said you will probably start 2010 with a points deduction.[/LIST]
Semantics. You budgeted for them in 09 and tried a similar think for 10 and were told to sling your hook. Bozos on here said that they were told at a fans meeting that you wouldn't be budgeting for prize money at all. So you were lied to....[/LIST]
Never said on here.[/LIST]
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Who said that? But you are paying unregisted players and no sign of a lifting of the embargo, so there might be fun and games there.

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Again, who said that?[/LIST]
Fancy a wager? If he is the next DU manager you donate €20 to the Red Cross for Haiti, if not I will. One of the mods can referee if needed.[/LIST]
Says who? Comical Gerry who told you prize money wouldn't be included? That you could sign 7 more players the week before the embargo was put in place? That said that the Albion court case was open and shut?

All the predictions so far we have made that have timelines that have past have been bang on. Last years licence still has to be reviewed. So hold off being a smartarse till we see what comes from that....

Whoops, hit a raw nerve or what ? no Bohs contributor here said we did not include money for third place, as we were told this at the EGM ( fact is, despite your obvious obsession, what is said at Bohs EGM is none of your business).
Contributors on here refuted your WRONG (yet again) claim that we had budgeted for winning (A) all domestic throphies or (B) winning the League in 2010. We were right you were wrong - get over it.
As you are obviously slow at reading I will repeat again - budgeting for prize money was allowed in 2009, no secret, no rule breaking, no problem.

take you up on the Nutsey bet as would be glad to see 20 euro go to a good cause (wont include it in any budget though

) but IF he does it will be because Dundee pay up what Bohs will settle for, nothing else.

By way of clarity the points where I put (as predicted) are the ones you got wrong so far, other points are extensions of same (at least you have given up the "you have signed nobody" line). Also very glad to see the points deduction is now a "probably" not as certain as you were or just covering your eventual embarrassment ?
It appears clear that all you have to offer is a a selection of childish abusive names (bozos ? really) and silly scattergun claims that dont stack up.
I Would hate to reach the stage where I was more concerned with wishing ill on another club than supporting my own. Sad really

Originally Posted by Jicked

So Bohs fans aren't worried at all about having their well planned out budget rejected by the FAI? Months after being hit with a transfer embargo for being in a precarious financial position? Weeks after having to stump up a figure thought to be around 90k to Fenlon in unpaid bonuses that they'd put off for over a year?

yep, well spotted. We owed a bonus for winning the League last november "over a year ago" oh, and the figure you quote is not even close either.