Sporting Fingal sponsorship deal provokes council row

**CSFShels** · 29/12/2009, 1:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Lep

You dont pay tax

"you've no more idea of whats gone on behind the scenes than I do"

You dont know me or my involvent enough to make that comment

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I wouldnt be too concerned about what clare daly brings up at a council meetings.

So basically you've just followed up your lack of knowledge on the topic.

**Buile Shuibhne** · 29/12/2009, 10:14 AM

[QUOTE=BYCTWD;1297821]
Rovers, Waterford, Fingal, Shels and Derry all play in stadia in partnership with local authorites. [QUOTE]

Originally Posted by BYCTWD

I live in the Corpo area and I don't particularly like the fact that they are giving you a stadium rent free. But thats life. We should be encouraging clubs to build alliances with their respective councils, like Shels did.

Shels have no partnership or alliance with Dublin City Council in relation to Tolka Park.

**weecountyman** · 29/12/2009, 11:06 AM

It might be a way forward for clubs if they go into a tenancy arrangement with local councils (ie get bought out or subsidised), then again it'd mean another round of overpaying players and bankruptcies before long.

The continental model, however, can work in Ireland, but it would mean all sports coming under each local council's protection. Can't see the GAA and Rugby boys getting pulled into that!

**CSFShels** · 29/12/2009, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by BYCTWD

They own it, so I'm assuming there has to be some form of relationship....

Ossie Kilkenny owns it.

**The Lep** · 29/12/2009, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

So basically you've just followed up your lack of knowledge on the topic.

What in santa's name are you on about?

**CSFShels** · 29/12/2009, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by The Lep

What in santa's name are you on about?

The fact that you backed up absolutely nothing in relation to having a clue on this matter.

**The Lep** · 29/12/2009, 11:53 AM

Does everything need to be broken down and explained to you bit by bit?

**CSFShels** · 29/12/2009, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Lep

Does everything need to be broken down and explained to you bit by bit?

No, just if you make a point, back it up. Don't just state something to be untrue, and provide no evidence of why that is so. I'm pretty sure you've no extra info than I do, I'm just going on that newspaper article, which may or may not be true, what are you going on?

**RoversInn** · 29/12/2009, 4:00 PM

Originally Posted by The Lep

We will work off the prize money for winning the europa cup

You'll break another record then.

The Lowest ever attendence at a Europa League game will go nicely with your lowest FAI Cup semi final attendence.

**CSFShels** · 29/12/2009, 4:16 PM

Originally Posted by BYCTWD

On the basis you clearly don't even know who owns your teams stadium, you have kind of trampled all over your own point there....

Not really, DCC own it, yet Ossie Kilkenny is able to rezone it? Think theres alot more to that situation then you're letting on. Also if you read what I said, I was actually doing the opposite to claiming to be massively educated on the business dealings on the non-football side of the club, I'm not of the same breed of these Rovers fans who reckon they're oracle of football now that they're doing things right for a change.

**Lamper.sffc** · 29/12/2009, 6:47 PM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

Not really, DCC own it, yet Ossie Kilkenny is able to rezone it? Think theres alot more to that situation then you're letting on. Also if you read what I said, I was actually doing the opposite to claiming to be massively educated on the business dealings on the non-football side of the club, I'm not of the same breed of these Rovers fans who reckon they're oracle of football now that they're doing things right for a change.

Now thats hilarious.

**CSFShels** · 29/12/2009, 8:25 PM

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Now thats hilarious.

Not really, I don't think Shels are a model club to follow or anything like that. Glad to have humoured you though.

**Macy** · 29/12/2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Aren't councils funded by rates, not taxes?

I think it was over 40% exchequer funding back when they were creaming development levies, so I'd guess it's probably getting towards 50-50 these days.

A story involving county council officials, property developers and banks deserves full investigation imo. Or have people missed who fooked up the country?

**thischarmingman** · 30/12/2009, 3:33 PM

Originally Posted by The Lep

What in santa's name are you on about?

"Great Odin's raven!"

**gufct** · 30/12/2009, 4:04 PM

Anglos Sponsorship was a six figure sum per season for the sleeves of the Jerseys and Gerry Gannon told them how much they were going to pay. I cant believe that this sponsorship was renewed this season if it was some embarrasing questions for the government run board of Anglo.

**Longfordian** · 30/12/2009, 4:13 PM

Their sponsorship deals did seem abnormally high when announced initially. What was Keelings? Something like 200K per season?. Gerry Gannon guaranteeing up to 500k a year I think. It's all a bit strange, they'd never shown any great love of the domestic game before as far as I'm aware.

**gufct** · 30/12/2009, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

Their sponsorship deals did seem abnormally high when announced initially. What was Keelings? Something like 200K per season?. Gerry Gannon guaranteeing up to 500k a year I think. It's all a bit strange, they'd never shown any great love of the domestic game before as far as I'm aware.

Must have been a huge development that was being applied for at the time. Did keelings sell any land to Gannon wondering out loud surely no collusion between Developers,Bankers,Local Council Officals and Politicians.

**total hoofball** · 30/12/2009, 5:34 PM

Originally Posted by BYCTWD

I can't agree with that. FCC don't have to 'prove' anything about the wealth of a private citizen.

There are a lot of conspiracy theories floating around with no basis in any actual reality.

If the taxpayer is a liable for paying player wages should Gannon's finances dry up then absolutely yes FFC should disclose the origin of finances to fund the club, if it was Bohs or anyone else it wouldn't be anyone's business as the taxpayer wouldn't be on the hook, FCC should have done due dilligence when setting the club up with Gannon so it shouldn't be a problem for them to reveal that everything is above board.

And I don't know where you're getting 'conspiracy theory' idea from. Gannon has signed all of his own properties into his wifes name and he has ran out of money to run the K club and has left the bills with Smurfit. If he has no money for the upkeep of the K Club (a massive personal investment of his own) where the hell is he getting the money to fund a football club that is ultimately FCC's baby? There is serious risk of this club going bang this year due to their depedency on the flow of Gannon's or whoevers money.

Smurfit silent over partner's K Club support

Tycoon now shouldering entire costs of resort

By NIAMH HORAN EXCLUSIVE

Sunday December 06 2009

Multi-MILLIONAIRE Dr Michael Smurfit has refused to comment on suggestions he made that his business partner -- leading property developer Gerry Gannon -- is not currently contributing to the upkeep of the prestigious K Club in Co Kildare.

continued - http://www.independent.ie/national-n...t-1965698.html

**SligoBrewer** · 30/12/2009, 5:39 PM

I can't edit my previous post.

So there is something in this.. Hmmm.

**The Lep** · 31/12/2009, 1:43 AM

Its still a non story. Its the same old anti-Sporting Fingal heads scrapping the barrel to have a pop and trying to make something out of nothing .
Its good to see the begrudgery still in play with some fans of the other clubs.
At this rate, it looks like Sporting Fingal will dominate the boards next season as you would rather talk about us than talk about your own little clubs. Nothing much to talk about at home so you think of something trivial or something un-original to post .
Lads/Ladies, at least wait until a proper juicey story pops up and the fai gets involved before exaggerating what was said in a council meeting .
HAPPY NEW YEAR.