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    i honestly think he sucks. he's not really that good. overrated.

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    I'm not normally one to jump to anyone connected to Bohs' defence but he clearly doesn't "suck". He's one of your most successful managers ever I'd imagine?. There's many arguments could be had about his budget etc at Shels and Bohs but he has delivered what he was paid to deliver at both clubs hence him being highly regarded by other clubs.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    i honestly think he sucks. he's not really that good. overrated.
    This lad just keeps getting better
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    **** Delaney and the FAI

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    i honestly think he sucks. he's not really that good. overrated.
    I never saw you calling him overrated when he was winning you leagues and cups

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    i honestly think he sucks. he's not really that good. overrated.
    seriously? Quit the sh!te talk. He's the best manager we've ever had.

    Quote Originally Posted by hoopy View Post
    It must be galling for Bohs fans to realise that Rovers fans know more about what's going on in their club than they do. Terrible isn't it
    Get over yourselves Rovers fans FFS. None of this stuff that any Rovers poster is posting here is anything that hasnt already been either leaked to the press or posted on our messageboard. A messageboard that, unlike the ultra-sensitive ultras, we dont shut down when we get in a strop.. or issue blanket bans to opposition supporters.
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    For people saying that the LOI is inferior to the SPL in terms of standard then read this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De Town View Post
    I never saw you calling him overrated when he was winning you leagues and cups
    Fenlons ok in LOI but out of that he is out of his depth. last 2 years we had poor challengers. I blame Fenlon for Bohs failure to get past salzburg and indeed the latvian team the year before in intertoto. im not being reactionary im genuinely not a fan. the guy has small man syndrome and has an inflated sense of his own importance.

    i would wecome damien richardson with open arms. i just think he has a bit more class than nutsy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    Get over yourselves Rovers fans FFS. None of this stuff that any Rovers poster is posting here is anything that hasnt already been either leaked to the press or posted on our messageboard. A messageboard that, unlike the ultra-sensitive ultras, we dont shut down when we get in a strop.. or issue blanket bans to opposition supporters.
    In all fairness Stu the stuff about Nutsy's interview in London, the details of his contract negotiations with Dundee Utd and the stuff about him being able to walk away from his contract because he was owed money was on the Ultras forum before it appeared in the media or the Bohs MB.

    The same poster indicated yesterday that the FAI have rejected Bohs budget for the new season too.

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    i'd say he thought he was so special having meetings in london. lol i almost pity him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoopy View Post
    It must be galling for Bohs fans to realise that Rovers fans know more about what's going on in their club than they do. Terrible isn't it
    Think it says more about Rovers fans tbh. Obsessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HulaHoop View Post
    In all fairness Stu the stuff about Nutsy's interview in London, the details of his contract negotiations with Dundee Utd and the stuff about him being able to walk away from his contract because he was owed money was on the Ultras forum before it appeared in the media or the Bohs MB.

    The same poster indicated yesterday that the FAI have rejected Bohs budget for the new season too.
    I think you'll find the BBC link alleging Nutsy was in London made its way on to the Bohs forum 12 minutes before it made it on to the Rovers one.

    Fenlon won't be walking away because of bonuses he hasn't been paid yet.

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    While it's going to be tough for Bohs to lose a genuinely good manager, outside our insular little world (ie the world ends outside of Ireland and the UK) Pat Fenlon moving to a club in a higher rated league is making press reports for good reasons in Europe. Yesterday in Kicker there was a report on "Ireland's best manager" moving to Scotland, in Russia's Sovietsky Sport something similiar and even in Austria it was reported (possibly because of recent memories). Forget the bitter interclub rivlaries and for a minute let's pretend that all is well in the LOI, and more importantly that it means something outside of the 27 counties (Derry included).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoopy View Post
    It must be galling for Bohs fans to realise that Rovers fans know more about what's going on in their club than they do. Terrible isn't it
    ..........just as it must be galling for Shams that despite such "know it all" fans they (1) went bankrupt (2) are still playing in a rented ground nearly 30 years after Milltown and (3) blew their only chance of a title in decades.
    Physican heal thyself ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeO View Post
    I think you'll find the BBC link alleging Nutsy was in London made its way on to the Bohs forum 12 minutes before it made it on to the Rovers one.

    Fenlon won't be walking away because of bonuses he hasn't been paid yet.
    Agreed deferral of bonuses (according to this thread) ? How is that a breach of contract ? the fact is that it is not and therefore how can Nutsey "walk" due to a non existant breach ?
    He is of course allowed offset bonuses owed against any compensation due (unlike other clubs Bohs honour what we owe) but to suggest he can walk is, yet again, ignorance of contract law (SEE Danninger V Bohs suggestion on another thread).
    Perhaps Tallaght IT should introduce a course in contract law as there appears to be a real need there

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    He is of course allowed offset bonuses owed against any compensation due (unlike other clubs Bohs honour what we owe) but to suggest he can walk is, yet again, ignorance of contract law (SEE Danninger V Bohs suggestion on another thread).
    Perhaps Tallaght IT should introduce a course in contract law as there appears to be a real need there
    You just read what someone else posted on the bohs messageboard right?

    As far as I can see this could fall under the rule in Pinnel's case, and so a contract for part-payment of an already existing debt must be supported by fresh consideration. Now the original Pinnel Case has obviously been thrown in to some doubt by cases such as Roffey Bros, but even there was at least a penalty clause was sufficient consideration...what sort of consideration could Fenlon have been offered as part of this verbal agreement? I'm no contract law expert unlike yourself, so would be good to hear am I way off on this or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    ..........just as it must be galling for Shams that despite such "know it all" fans they (1) went bankrupt
    No we didn't, we went into examinership. There is a difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    (2) are still playing in a rented ground nearly 30 years after Milltown
    So what? The cost of renting is pretty much the same as the cost of running the stadium. Infact the cost of renting is cheaper. It makes sence.
    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    (3)and blew their only chance of a title in decades.
    15/24

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    Quote Originally Posted by BYCTWD View Post
    Is this "agreed deferral" in writing....?

    Also, where in Bohs accounts is this rumoured €100k debt listed?
    Apparently in form of verbal contract but I understand this to be binding in law (unless Nutsey is denying it happened). I have not seen accounts and don't know when the liability arose so it may not be proper to include it in accounts issued to date. Only speculation I admit, but as reliable as your views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked;1302407[B
    ](1)[/B]You just read what someone else posted on the bohs messageboard right?

    (2) As far as I can see this could fall under the rule in Pinnel's case, and so a contract for part-payment of an already existing debt must be supported by fresh consideration. Now the original Pinnel Case has obviously been thrown in to some doubt by cases such as Roffey Bros, but even there was at least a penalty clause was sufficient consideration...what sort of consideration could Fenlon have been offered as part of this verbal agreement? I'm no contract law expert unlike yourself, so would be good to hear am I way off on this or not
    (1) No, much more fun here.


    (2) thank you for your view and if Dundee Utd/ Nutsey wish to follow up on it I look forward to Bohs finally winning a court action (about time too). Lets not hold our breath on them taking your advice though.....

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