Time to say goodbye to Paul Cook?

**roversman** · 21/12/2009, 12:07 PM

It took Cook a while to work out that Boco is actually a right back.

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hes not a full back he cant defend ok hes good going forward but a fullback should be able to defend

**tiktok** · 21/12/2009, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by roverandout

However I do think that you have enough pressing matters at your own club which are more worthy of your comments.

Haha, I wonder if you would have deemed yourself worthy of my commentary if I'd agreed with you. Anyway, don't worry, I am always willing to make time to oppose nonsense, wherever it crops up.

It seems you've got some personal 'won't somebody think of the children' issues going on here.

**roverandout** · 21/12/2009, 12:09 PM

I've enjoyed the debate, but since I haven't bought a thing for Christmas as yet, the shops beckon (yuk).

**Boo_Boy** · 21/12/2009, 12:20 PM

*Bookmarks thread for November 2010*

**Well Red** · 21/12/2009, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by roverandout

I guess we are going to have to agree to differ for now, but I will be very surprised if Cook sees next season out.

Either you are a Shams fan in disguise or you have no idea what our manager is trying to achieve. He set out to have the team play good football and he achieved that before we had a series of serious injuries and it was not until we got most of the guys back that we put a great string of results together. Your remarks about Boco make me doubt that you know a lot about the game and I do not want to be unkind to you but I think Boco could play anywhere from one to eleven and any club would love to have him. So basically I think you starting a thread like you have is way off the mark and i suspect the manager will make you eat your words by end of next season. As the guy said before me would you prefer someone like Roddy Collins? or who would you prefer?

**sligofan4ever** · 21/12/2009, 6:32 PM

Originally Posted by Well Red

Either you are a Shams fan in disguise or you have no idea what our manager is trying to achieve. He set out to have the team play good football and he achieved that before we had a series of serious injuries and it was not until we got most of the guys back that we put a great string of results together. Your remarks about Boco make me doubt that you know a lot about the game and I do not want to be unkind to you but I think Boco could play anywhere from one to eleven and any club would love to have him. So basically I think you starting a thread like you have is way off the mark and i suspect the manager will make you eat your words by end of next season. As the guy said before me would you prefer someone like Roddy Collins? or who would you prefer?

Its Rob McDonald in disguise

But I think signing Amond,Turner and McCabe shows he wants success and shows a sign of intent for next season. as I said a few posts ago, hes a very honest manager and given the chance to sign players, and can have a near injury free season, he can do very well here as the 2008 season proved. As far as i'm concerned, Cook will be around for another season. Lets also keep in mind roverandout, the only available managers with LoI experience I can think of are Jeff Kenna and Paul Doolin, would you rather one of them instead of Paul Cook ?

**CRFC&SRFC** · 21/12/2009, 7:19 PM

Originally Posted by roverandout

Fair point gustavo (although every player has a value, especially someone who misses large chunks of the season when he's away on international duty). Cook is the subject of my thread and I'm just not convinced by the sincerity of the guy. I do however think that he is quite canny when it comes to enhancing his standing. Not only has he the people on this board eating out of his hand, but those dimwits on MNS have practically canonised him. It has never occurred to the latter that he just might be playing to the cameras. A manager should also be a good ambassador for his club (McStay, Sanchez, Cotterill, O'Riordan etc.) and as yet, no one has answered my question which I will repeat 'Is Cook a good role model or a good professional'?

Only 3 players played more league games for us last season,

Cook is a young manager and im sure is always looking to improve.He plays a nice brand of football and i believe he represents club very well in media

Apparently there are initiatives underway for players/manager etc to play a more active role in engaging with junior underage football and this got underway towards the end of last season, hopfully it can be built on.

LOI football at the moment is not the easiest thing to be an ambassador for either, to answer your question, (remember how good our previous "manager"(use the term loosely) was at representing our club. To be fair we've a come a long way in that regard

**roverandout** · 21/12/2009, 8:16 PM

Originally Posted by Well Red

Either you are a Shams fan in disguise or you have no idea what our manager is trying to achieve. He set out to have the team play good football and he achieved that before we had a series of serious injuries and it was not until we got most of the guys back that we put a great string of results together. Your remarks about Boco make me doubt that you know a lot about the game and I do not want to be unkind to you but I think Boco could play anywhere from one to eleven and any club would love to have him. So basically I think you starting a thread like you have is way off the mark and i suspect the manager will make you eat your words by end of next season. As the guy said before me would you prefer someone like Roddy Collins? or who would you prefer?

I like Boco but don't consider that he really has a best position, he can do a decent job in a number. He certainly wasn't the goalscoring sensation that Cook portrayed him as initially, and I fully agree with the poster who questioned his defensive qualities as a right back. I only referred to him as a right back simply because that's the position he plays for his country. Before people get too hung up about Boco and his capabilities, could I suggest two things. Firstly check out his career in England on a database such as www.soccerassociation.com or Scout7 and you will find that he didn't exactly set the world alight in England, and secondly, this thread is not about Boco.

To answer another comment, there is more to being a role model or ambassador for a club than how one performs on TV. Sometimes what you do when you're away from the club is just as important.

**CF1989** · 21/12/2009, 8:18 PM

i fairness to Cook, we had about 11 players for the majority of the first half of the season. he couldnt drop anyone who wasnt playing well, the players knew that and maybe wernt as motivated as they should if there was a big squad fighting for places.

once the window came he turned our season around, blinkhorn an doyle were fantastic signings. league winning form from august on once we had a decent squad.

**roverandout** · 21/12/2009, 8:26 PM

Originally Posted by CF1989

i fairness to Cook, we had about 11 players for the majority of the first half of the season. he couldnt drop anyone who wasnt playing well, the players knew that and maybe wernt as motivated as they should if there was a big squad fighting for places.

once the window came he turned our season around, blinkhorn an doyle were fantastic signings. league winning form from august on once we had a decent squad.

I totally agree with you about Blinkhorn and Doyle, but what about the likes of Holmes, Parkhouse and Morrison who actually did feature in the early stages of the season, and who either through lack of ability, or lack of interest, didn't contribute very much?

**sligofan4ever** · 21/12/2009, 8:31 PM

Originally Posted by roverandout

I totally agree with you about Blinkhorn and Doyle, but what about the likes of Holmes, Parkhouse and Morrison who actually did feature in the early stages of the season, and who either through lack of ability, or lack of interest, didn't contribute very much?

Holmes was the only left back he could get at the time, and just to add to that he was part-time trying to hold down a job in Derry (I think).

Parkhouse played about 5 games due to injury

Morrison was blowing hot and cold, but was a joy to watch at times e.g his link up play with Boco in the 2-0 win over Pats.

**roverandout** · 21/12/2009, 8:35 PM

Originally Posted by sligofan4ever

Morrison was blowing hot and cold, but was a joy to watch at times e.g his link up play with Boco in the 2-0 win over Pats.

I agree with you about Morrison. He has loads of ability but doesn't always deliver. A totally frustrating player, who will look back on his career with a lot of 'if onlys' and 'what ifs'

**rovers100%** · 21/12/2009, 9:00 PM

you seem to have an underlying issue here, you keep on about the way cook behaves away from the club ? what exactly are you hinting at ???

**gufc2000** · 21/12/2009, 10:48 PM

We will take him if ye don't want him.

Ye've got a top manager there, I wouldn't be looking to dispense of him. He's brought in some quality players for ye over the last 2-3 years

**geezer** · 21/12/2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by rovers100%

you seem to have an underlying issue here, you keep on about the way cook behaves away from the club ? what exactly are you hinting at ???

because if he is gay or something its no big deal anymore , just look at that cork hurler is it seanie og o halpin i think is his name. He has a book out for christmas and sure all the gaa heads are buying it in pallet loads

**Shiba** · 21/12/2009, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by roverandout

Cook and Coughlan would get along great. However I do think that you have enough pressing matters at your own club which are more worthy of your comments.

you opened the debate and with doing that after the yer the Cork fans have had that they are one set of fans that can surly give comment that things could be worse at our club.

What do you expected from a manager? All I can hear round the league is what breath of fresh air Cook is his honesty etc! Ya I too think Meenan was wrong change in cup final ?Boco was never a striker? But we needed him to play there and he did? Cretaro was never a striker cook put him there and well thats why hes with Bohs next year.

Cook has worked well with the Budget he has.If he had the Budgets of past mangers I feel he would have been a lot more succesful.

Always said The way Cavan people are protrayed as scrooges
and Kerry man as thick. I have always said that Sligo people are a bunch of moaners and dont know when we have it good.Thats part of the reason why crowds dont go out most of the season.Rovers are sh*** ,not going out there waste of money that lot etc.

Cop on we have a good season considering!(Our budget been cut at the start of the season)

**Mayo Red** · 21/12/2009, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by gufc2000

We will take him if ye don't want him

Ye can't have Cook but ye can have roverandout if ye want, no prob!!

**sligofan4ever** · 21/12/2009, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by A.Dolan

I would kill to have Holmesy back, KILL

Sean Holmes will come back if you kill Inside Man and Richie Winter.

**CF1989** · 21/12/2009, 11:35 PM

morrison assisted more goals for us this season than any other player. he created around 10-15 goals, and he didnt play most of the 2nd half of the season

**avvenalaf** · 21/12/2009, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by CF1989

morrison assisted more goals for us this season than any other player. he created around 10-15 goals, and he didnt play most of the 2nd half of the season

Well he certainly assisted the equaliser in the cup final.