I think he is quite a good manager. Usual sensationalism
sure when the level of "debate" reaches that level who could be bothered.
"could well have gauranteed" is more or less the same thing anyway. over a 38 game season i doubt not putting out a strongest team v man utd will be seen as the thing that "could well have gauranteed" their survival.
as per my previous posts i can understand why it was done but as a sportsman it goes against my ideals. its all opinion at the end of the day
i agree with mick on this one- although he did go a little over the top changing all his outfield players. he as manager is entitled to play whoever he likes, and to be fair whatever team he played would have spent the night chasing the ball around and most likely losing.
an_ceannaire is a wind up merchant and would have a good job replacing LAughing Bill O'Herlihy on the RTE Panel. "The earth is square: discuss." "No Bill, it's round but only us people in the know are aware of that"
I commented on Mick's selection on the EPL thread in World Football where this thread should probably belong but not much action there
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Surprised at Mick Mc's decision to rest almost the whole team against Man U. I know he has often said their fate will not depend on results against Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal but against the other teams but I think he was wrong for the following reasons:
(a) Sends the wrong signals to the players and fans i.e. we have no hope of competing with the top teams. We are way too inferior that there is no point in even showing up.
(b) I am sure their top players would have liked to play Man U at Old Trafford.
(c) It lets down the fans who travelled to Old T.
(d) Don't agree with this resting business. The likes of Houllier and other continental managers brought this in to the game in England. Previously, when English teams, in particular Liverpool, dominated Europe, there was no resting of players. The same team usually played week in, week out, and it seemed to have no adverse affect.
(e) Man U were not playing well and lost their last game at home. Wolves had won their last game. A "result" was not beyond the bounds of possibility.
Sorry Mick, I think it was the wrong decision whether they beat Burnley next game or not.
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I think its unfair on the Wolves players and fans, I was reading an interview with Kevin Doyle a while back and one of the reasons he gave for joining Wolves was that he was looking forward to playing in the Premiership at Old Trafford and the likes, I think every player wants to test themselves against the best and if you'd ask any of the rested players at the start of the season I'd say 100% of them would have picked from the fixture list, were away in Old Trafford, Anfield, Villa Park etc, not the likes of Turf Moor, after winning 2 games in a row and against a weakened Man United team I feel Mick should have "given it a lash". After deciding what team he was going pick for the game(which was probably decided a while ago) I feel he should have let it be known so as the fans would have had no reason to feel short changed.
Who's takin the cones??????
Wolves have played in Old Trafford already this season in the Carling Cup so the first teamers and the fans have had their BIG DAY OUT. The fans who are "outraged" with what Mick did need to have a chat with themselves. If it wasn't for him, they would be travelling to the likes of Plymouth to watch their team play this season.
They have had 2 very tough games and managed to pick up a vital 6 points. Alot of his first team would be in need of a rest (and don't start all that sh*te that professional footballers shouldn't need to rest) and some may have been carrying knocks.
3 points against Burnely rather than against Man United are so much more important and if Wolves finish 1 point ahead of Burnley and survive the drop come the end of the season (provided they do beat Burnley) all those fans will be kissing his arse.
No point beating Man United if you end up in the Championship next year. Wolves need time to develop their squad so no, they cannot compete just yet but with what Mick is doing, they may well one day soon!!!
Ill be backing Burnley at the weekend anyway.
Micks a decent manager at Championship standard but personally I dont think hes good enough for the Premiership.Got relegated with a record points low the last time he was there and even though Wolves work hard enough I think they will be relegated .Last night made no difference but alot of managers might have thought that after United losing at the weekend that a point would have been possible last night.
What way would we have reacted if in the last campaign there was double header with Italy and Bulgaria and Trap had played the 2nd string against Italy saying that we had a better chance of beating Bulgaria. I know its not the same but if I was a Wolves fan I would be annoyed
Its really not that complicated!!!
Why are people giving out to him for this. He can pick whatever bloody team he likes. They have an awfully hard christmas run and have 5 games in 3 weeks. Why shouldn't he rest players in a match he knows they have limited chance of getting anything. Smart move and just might pay dividends over xmas
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...rs/8416359.stm
Wolves have to explain themselves..
But it was ok for Utd to put out a weakened team when Hull were in danger of relegation on the last day of last season.....
http://sports.rediff.com/report/2009...am-vs-hull.htm
I'd like to see how the PL reconcile these 2 stances.....Manchester United have every right to field a weakened team against Hull City on Sunday even though it could have an impact on the relegation battle, Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore has said.
"You have to be realistic: they've got a squad, and therefore you can't argue that they deploy the benefit of that squad in a game on Sunday."
1 rule for the Skyballbig4 and several hundred ever changing rules for all the other teams
Have to disagree with Razor. Mic is a good manager, his results at Sunderland were off the back of having absolutely no money to spend on players. Hence John Stead being one of his signings that year.
How big an influence this has on Wolves results will depend on how Mic manages the situation IMO as I wonder how this will affect the players in his squad. The guys who were dropped for the United game and brought back in for the Burnley game might think they are first team and untouchable. The guys brought in for the United game and dropped for Burnley might think what’s the point they are squad players. Might lead to a drop off in competition within the squad.
I think that’s what will have a bigger affect on their results, not if the players think the integrity of the league has been compromised
"It's not the despair; I can handle the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." John Cleese on supporting a LOI club.
Also, with all the attention the Wolves v Burnley match is now getting (which it wouldnt normally have received) - Its more than possible that the Burnley Players will up their game a level, not wanting to play out Micks hopes of them being the 'easy / less difficult' touch
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
Great post Stuttgart.
Mick is one of the most honest and loyal players ever to play for Ireland. Similarly, he gave it his all when he was manager.
As you said, only one player ever had a problem with Mick and that player has since demonstrated his lack on bona fides when he was effectively sacked by Manchester United and by walking out on Sunderland.
This thread from an ceannaire is clearly a wind-up and should be closed in my opinion, as it does not relate to the national team.
Can't understand the fuss. Every player that lined up is part of the squad submitted to the Premier League at the start of the season and therefore part of the Wolverhampton squad.
He can pick whoever the hell he wants as long as they're registered. The FA asking him to explain his team selection is just lip service. They haven't got a leg to stand on.
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It's Mick's call and he is the manager. If Wolves stay up at the end of the season because they got 3 points against Burnley it was worth the aggro.
I can understand why some of the Wolves fans are angry but they must surely realise that the League is 38 games not just one.
Word of caution though. Aston Villa tried a similiar thing in the Uefa Cup last season (rested the first team) and their season fell apart.
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