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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
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    brilliant ORA and brilliant response geysir

    Doire, thats the point, the FAI dont have the same media outlets or receipients as Messr Blatter. His original comments will have been carried around the world, however his second im pretty sure wont. I know for a fact the FAI statement hasn't gone anywhere near as global.

    John: you stole my original by idea....

    Fair play to Ms Theron pulling Ireland out of the bowl in the rehearsal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    John: you stole my original by idea...
    Oops - missed your post. Still, it was a crap idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Fair play to Ms Theron pulling Ireland out of the bowl in the rehearsal.
    WHAT!

    Stupid dense unforgiveably stunning bint! I spent the best part of two weeks planning to get the ball into the bowl, and she yanks it out a couple of days before.

    And I know we'd have got away with it, as long as we took the approach "as the official overseeing the draw did not see the ball being handled in, it must stand"...
    That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.

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    She really should have saved it for the official draw.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7UfSbASyrQ

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    A brilliant statement from the FAI tonight. Points very well put across and showed real balls on the part of the governing body of soccer in Ireland. Prompted a pathetic apology (but an apology nonetheless) which showed BLatter up for the sniveling little weasel that he is. I'm not an advocate of the FAI at all but I have to say they came out the better in this whole farcical mess.

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    And it's still rumbling on ... we can't seem to get over it. It's like the neverending moaning about Brian O'Driscoll's injury on the Lions tour to New Zealand. It's like the Irish team talking about the win over the Springboks as being revenge for the Lions failure and the Luke FitzGerald eye gouging. There seems to be an obsession with these incidents, when New Zealand's Tony Woodcock was eye gouged by the French last weekend the report was made and the NZ media have not spoken about it since. I think we need to man up a bit here and move on. It's only a game and we are losing dignity the longer this goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwerty View Post
    And it's still rumbling on ... we can't seem to get over it. It's like the neverending moaning about Brian O'Driscoll's injury on the Lions tour to New Zealand. It's like the Irish team talking about the win over the Springboks as being revenge for the Lions failure and the Luke FitzGerald eye gouging. There seems to be an obsession with these incidents, when New Zealand's Tony Woodcock was eye gouged by the French last weekend the report was made and the NZ media have not spoken about it since. I think we need to man up a bit here and move on. It's only a game and we are losing dignity the longer this goes on.
    the odriscoll incident couldve broken his neck.
    so what if they mentioned the SA win was revenge for the lions? big deal.
    never heard the revenge issue over the eye gouging mentioned once after our win.
    the fact that the fitzgerald gouging incident received so much coverage at the time was that it was so blatantly dangerous and didnt get the punishment it deserved. such serious issues should be kept in the public eye (no pun intended!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    the odriscoll incident couldve broken his neck.
    so what if they mentioned the SA win was revenge for the lions? big deal.
    never heard the revenge issue over the eye gouging mentioned once after our win.
    the fact that the fitzgerald gouging incident received so much coverage at the time was that it was so blatantly dangerous and didnt get the punishment it deserved. such serious issues should be kept in the public eye (no pun intended!).
    The SA media have mentioned it, especially in light of Heaslip being accused, albeit 3 days after the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doire Abu View Post
    I'm glad that Blatter has said sorry, but that doesn't mitigate the damage that his original comments have made.
    What exact "damage" was done? Before we asked confidentally could we go to the World Cup, we weren't going. After we asked we still weren't going. Some egg on our face but egg on a face doesn't go any damage. Just needs to be wiped away and in this instance the thrower of the egg had to apologise.

    Same result (no damage) but lots of egg on Blatter's hands as he wipes the egg off Delaney's face. I am happy with that outcome.
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_peepee View Post
    Very concise well written statement. However it won't get the pedestal Blatter got. We need to fight fire with fire. The Official Statement should be pinned to the back of a volotile inciting statement from a sacrificial lamb in the FAI, And by that I mean someone should openly question the integrity of Blatter and FIFA as a man and organisation. No requesting of replays or asking for anything..... No ambiguity. Straight out. Blatter is corrupt... FIFA is corrupt.. Addidas.. Mafia... Fat Cats... Greco Roman... back Scratching.. Henry's a coward.. And finish up by citing that Paris will not be the last example of the corruption of the game...

    Then face the sanctions knowing they'll never work in an official cappacity in the sport again... I vote Don Givens..

    I'm serious about the first paragraph though.
    After all the dust has settled the FAI have to get on with the job of being a member of FIFA. There's nothing that they can do. Do they think that they didn't know about the corruption, Blatter's ways and the way the game worked?

    What ends would this have?

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    WHAT???? You winding me up man?? The serenity to accept what we can't chage?? Put up an shut up???..... Jim Larkin is rolling in his grave...

    Balls to that... What end you ask?? I'll tell you what end?? The world of cycling and athletics have been decimated in recent times due to questionable ethics. Before the usual nit picking pedestal mounters on here (you know who you are) claim I'm equating Paris to the persistant abuse of performance enhancing drugs I'm not... I'm hammering home the potential effect on an institutian when the sports integrity is compromised.

    We have a situation where we as stereotypical underdogs were DEFINATELY WITHOUT DOUBT conspired against along with other minority nations in terms of the belated seeding of the playoff. And more pointedly denied a place in the sports showpiece tournament on the back of a blatant breaking of the most fundemental rule of the sport itself at a defining point in a campaign.. That's CAMPAIGN, not match, not Leg. Campaign. WITH NO ACCOUNtABILITY OR DETERENT in place for future infractions.

    Mark my words. FIFA want this to die. Charleze Theron did us a huge favour last night. I'm embarassed by the Oliver Twist perception of us begging for a replay or free pass. I am. But it's serving another purpose of keeping this in the public eye the day before the draw is made.

    I'll be content with a three game competitive ban for Henry, plus the addition of "umpires" behind the goal.

    Harrumph!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_peepee View Post
    WHAT???? You winding me up man?? The serenity to accept what we can't chage?? Put up an shut up???..... Jim Larkin is rolling in his grave...

    Balls to that... What end you ask?? I'll tell you what end?? The world of cycling and athletics have been decimated in recent times due to questionable ethics. Before the usual nit picking pedestal mounters on here (you know who you are) claim I'm equating Paris to the persistant abuse of performance enhancing drugs I'm not... I'm hammering home the potential effect on an institutian when the sports integrity is compromised.

    We have a situation where we as stereotypical underdogs were DEFINATELY WITHOUT DOUBT conspired against along with other minority nations in terms of the belated seeding of the playoff. And more pointedly denied a place in the sports showpiece tournament on the back of a blatant breaking of the most fundemental rule of the sport itself at a defining point in a campaign.. That's CAMPAIGN, not match, not Leg. Campaign. WITH NO ACCOUNtABILITY OR DETERENT in place for future infractions.

    Mark my words. FIFA want this to die. Charleze Theron did us a huge favour last night. I'm embarassed by the Oliver Twist perception of us begging for a replay or free pass. I am. But it's serving another purpose of keeping this in the public eye the day before the draw is made.

    I'll be content with a three game competitive ban for Henry, plus the addition of "umpires" behind the goal.

    Harrumph!!!!
    A 3 match ban for henry? On what grounds? You're keen to use FIFA's creditability when it suits you and ignore their bending of the rules when it's to your own advantage. Fair enough.

    I do agree with the need for the referee team needing expanding, and help from TV. It's done wonders for Tennis, and adds excitement to rugby, American football and cricket.

    My point is that the FAI have been in bed with FIFA for how long, and they've never once thought that they're slightly corrupt? Someone's made a good point in here, at the end of the day we're no more important than a St. Kitts and Nevis in Blatter's eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twoenz View Post
    A 3 match ban for henry? On what grounds?
    On the grounds of gross unsporting behaviour - for the umpteenth time. Perfectly valid grounds with actual precedents, both UEFA & FIFA.
    I posted this on another thread but it's just as relevant here:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-handball.html

    "The disciplinary commission is an independent organ," said a Fifa spokesman. "It will decide if the case is of interest. The possibility exists of sanctioning a player for unsporting behaviour on the basis of video evidence."

    "...the more apt parallel is with Mauro Tassotti, who was banned for eight games by Fifa after elbowing Spain's Luís Enrique during a World Cup quarter-final at USA 94. The incident had been missed by the referee.

    Similarly, Marco Materazzi, the controversial Italian defender, was handed a two-match ban and fined €5,000 (£4,500) for inciting France's Zinedine Zidane to butt him in the 2006 World Cup final after a panel reviewed footage of the game."
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    This really sums up FIFA as an organisation. (Appologies if its been posted already)



    Robert Mugabe with the World Cup, which was passing through Harare on its way to South Africa for the draw for next year's tournament. Photograph: Tsvangirayi Mukwazhi/AP
    Human rights groups in Zimbabwe have condemned world football's governing body for allowing Robert Mugabe to hold the World Cup trophy as it passed through Zimbabwe.
    The trophy is on a tour of all 53 African countries ahead of next year's football showpiece in neighbouring South Africa. But activists in Zimbabwe criticised Fifa for handing a propaganda coup to a leader blamed for atrocities and oppression.
    At a ceremony in Harare yesterday, Mugabe joked gleefully as he lifted the cup. Inspecting the 6.5kg solid gold trophy, the president could not resist a dig at his old enemy Britain, according to the New Zimbabwe website. "Britain does not have any gold, neither does Germany," he was quoted as saying.
    "I am tempted to think that it came from Africa, and from Zimbabwe, and was taken away by adventurers who shaped it into this cup."
    Mugabe's comments raised laughter at a ceremony attended by government officials, football fans and journalists at Harare international airport. He added: "When I hold the cup, I know all of you will have the urge that I should not let it go because this could be our gold."
    Raymond Majongwe, secretary general of the Progressive Teachers Union of Zimbabwe, said Fifa should not have given Mugabe legitimacy.
    He said: "It's a symbol of sporting excellence and the trophy every world leader craves to hold in their lifetime. They could have sent a political message by keeping it away from Zimbabwe. But with this, Mugabe was able to say the World Cup will come and go and he will still be there."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...olds-world-cup

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    I can't believe they let such a corrupt, self-serving, dictatorship that is propped up by special interests to tarnish the image of the worlds greatest sports spectacle.

    ....and they probably shouldn't have let Mugabe hold it either.

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    they wrote to the argentina FA to make sure diego maradonna didnt show up at the draw as he is currently banned for 2 months yet allow mugabe get involved in the whole show. unreal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    they wrote to the argentina FA to make sure diego maradonna didnt show up at the draw as he is currently banned for 2 months yet allow mugabe get involved in the whole show. unreal!
    And yet, does anyone really see this as a big surprise?

    Diego Maradona - footballing legend, could waddle past most of today's greyhounds and dazzle us all even still, brought excitement to world football in the dreary cyncial footballing world post Fra 3-3 Schumacher's ar$e. Manager of a major nation. Passionate about the game, perhaps slightly more than a touch crazy. A controversial and outspoken figure. A thorn in the side of FIFA authority.

    Robert Mugabe - inspirational leader turned dictator, responsible for the bankrupting of a powerful wealthy nation. His chief connection with football is through his nephew Leo Mugabe, former head of ZIFA. Fun Bobby likes to lay down the law and does not pay respect to any who challenge him. Sorts out his allies with favours, loves to make quips to the media about small scale problems to set them laughing and distracting them from various examples of collossal corruption. An inspiration to FIFA.
    That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.

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    I see Blatter today calling on all players to respect the Fair Play principles, unless your one of the chsen few, and then it's ok, sure didnt I pull shirts as a player he sniggers
    Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.

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