youre right, you've convinced me. He's been an abject failure and has brutalised the talent that he was blessed with. He should retire now to avoid further embarrassment to himself.The 10th highest scorer in the EPL
Ferguson was right about him as Keane has failed at the top clubs, O'Leary even dropped him ffs.
He wasted his talent son by being thick-headed and not improving on his game and as I said he wasted a glorious chance to put his country into the World Cup when he was needed most.
I cant believe i ignored the upward trajectory in O'Learys career and the corresponding downward curve in Keanes career directly after. Schoolboy error.
You're absolutely right.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
I don't doubt the contribution Keane made in the campaign but as I say 'It means nothing if you get nothing' we are still not going to SA regardless of how many goals Keane has scored, the fact of the matter is he failed miserably when needed most.
Listen son, read my posts again without the green-tinted glasses this time. You and McD are using pitiful excuses for Keanes miss,it's this kind of losers attitude that has held Ireland back in sport and in general life sadly. No killer instinct to take it to the next level.
Ill use his equaliser in the last minute against Germany in WC2002 as his defining moment in an Irish shirt. That you use his "miss" against France as your defining moment of his career says a lot more about you than mine does about me. Robbie has been at the heart of any success we've had in the last 12 years, going back to the U18 European Championship win in 98.
To write off a truly great Irish player, record goalscorer and record goals in world cups, as you do it pretty incredible. As i said before, you'll appreciate what he did for us after he is gone which is a pity for you.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
I was delighted for him after the 2002 WC as I felt he had matured somewhat as a player and I had some hope for him to capatilize on it but sadly he never improved his game since. A very good player for Ireland I agree and arguably our best stiker to date not that there were any greats before him now were there? Ireland don't top class strikers for some reason
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His campaigns under Kerr & Stan weren't exactly goalfests were they?
A failure at Liverpool, a sub now at Spurs and probably on his way out there as well?
Robbie played a mere 28 times for Liverpool, scoring 7 times, Im not sure how many of those appearances he actually started but it was certainly less than 75%. So if that constitutes a failure, then the vast majority of premiership strikers would also be failures.
Robbie was treated disgracely at Liverpool, was not allowed to settle in and was used as a pawn by RB in his boardroom battle. He was never going to fit into the system Benitez adopts but is that Keanes fault?
For example, Keane scored twice against WBA and was not even in the squad in the next game. He scored a vital goal for pool away to Arsenal, followed up by a brace at home to Bolton, then what happened in the next game, an unused sub?!?! He was never given a decent run of starts to settle in or form a partnership with Torres.
Keane scored 4 goals in 8 games in the 2006 campaign under Kerr. Not bad eh?
Show me any Irish player that did well under Stan, in any case Keane also scored 4 goals in that campaign, again hardly a failure?!
Irelands top goalscorer by a huge margin and still only 29! For some reason certain people always try to put him down, "he never scores against big teams" was an old favourite.....Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Holland....all minnows of course!
Im not saying Keane is a WC finisher but he is our best striker ever by some distance. Perhaps its only when hes gone that he will truly be appreciated by some.
i think some people would be better off doing a bit of pre-post research before writing such condesending rubbish
Nobody is excusing his miss, he himself has said it was a bad miss, and it was a bad miss.
What you are doing is taking that miss, and in a spectacularly revisionist exercise, claiming it is somehow symbolic of a whole failed career.
It is amazing that, while attempting to argue that Ireland's top goal-scorer has had a failed career, you suggest that others have a loser's attitude, when you are the one displaying such an attitude.
Regarding his lack of killer innstinct - where was he in injury time against Germany in 2002 and with 2 minutes to go against Italy in Bari last year? Scoring poacher's goals to take us to the next level, that's where he was.
Hi Roy
You could quite easily argue that Robbie is the greatest Irish player of all time, personally I wouldnt say that but he is up there with the greats, given his goals per games ratio.
Benitiz got rid of Keane because he saw it wasn't going to work,plus Keane was missing important sitters and his moaning and attitude on the pitch was not professional. Spurs are now seeing what Benitiz saw in Keane last season. I don't doubt and I appreciate Keanes record for Ireland but his tendancy to miss gilt-edged chances proved fatal in Paris. He never mastered the most essential thing in football and that is 'doing the simple things well'
Nonsense.
After six years, 250 games and 100 goals in his first spell at the Lane, Spurs hardly needed a five month spell at Anfield to figure out what Keane was really like.
Otherwise, why would they have approached L'pool to buy him back when they realised he wasn't wanted by Benitez?
Quite simply, from the Director's point of view, Robbie's sale to L'pool was too good a deal to turn down. That is, after signing him from Leeds in a "firesale" for £7million in 2002, they were happy enough with the five years service they had got from to offer him a further 5 year contract in 2007, which he signed. But when L'pool were offering £19m a year later, and the player himself a 50% salary increase, there was only ever going to be one outcome.
Anyhow, the point is that when they heard he hadn't settled at Anfield, it was Spurs who approached L'pool to buy him back a mere five months later, not the other way round, re-signing him for a highly profitable £12 million + add-ons!
Meanwhile, if he's not currently first choice at WHL these days, that is explained by two reasons. First, Defoe (esp) and Crouch are playing out of their skins this season; second, Redknapp has favoured Defoe ever since their days together at WHU.
Then again, these things work both ways. For a period when he was manager, Martin Jol favoured Jermaine Defoe over Robbie, picking JD alongside Berbatov as his first choice strike duo. Then Defoe got injured and RK got his chance. The point is, when Defoe became fit again, he remained on the bench, since Robbie had established himself as Jol's new first choice partner for Berba.
And it's notable, too, with Redknapp needing to sell before he can buy in the present window, he's touting Pavyluchenko all around Europe, but wants to keep Robbie.
Now I would accept that Robbie is more a "scorer of great goals" than a "great goalscorer" (i.e. he is not so prolific as eg a Defoe or a Torres).
Nonetheless, he gets his share, whilst making a greater all-round contribution than other (mere) 'poachers'. Otherwise if it were not so, why do you think so many respected managers at so many top clubs would have paid £75m+ in transfer fees for Robbie down the years?
As for his contribution to ROI, I've not seen enough to express an opinion. Nonetheless, I can't help wondering who would have been leading the line for you over the last 10 years had Robbie never existed. David Connolly? Clinton Morrison? Leon Best? Gary Doherty?
As I said on an NI website recently when some fans were grousing about David Healy, we should all get down on our knees each evening and thank God for having him.
If I were an ROI fan (), I suspect I'd be doing the same for Robbie Keane.
Some good points but I don't think Spurs paid 12 mil to have him on the bench did they plus knowing Harry's thrift & mil profit is a nice earner for his club. You say a lot of top managers paid top money for him down the years but it was only Spurs where he was any value of his overpriced transfers. Didn't last long at Inter, was soon on the bench at Leeds,offloaded by liverpool at a loss of 7 mil and now on the bench at Spurs with Crouch of all players ahead of him?Nonsense.
After six years, 250 games and 100 goals in his first spell at the Lane, Spurs hardly needed a five month spell at Anfield to figure out what Keane was really like.
Otherwise, why would they have approached L'pool to buy him back when they realised he wasn't wanted by Benitez?
Quite simply, from the Director's point of view, Robbie's sale to L'pool was too good a deal to turn down. That is, after signing him from Leeds in a "firesale" for £7million in 2002, they were happy enough with the five years service they had got from to offer him a further 5 year contract in 2007, which he signed. But when L'pool were offering £19m a year later, and the player himself a 50% salary increase, there was only ever going to be one outcome.
Anyhow, the point is that when they heard he hadn't settled at Anfield, it was Spurs who approached L'pool to buy him back a mere five months later, not the other way round, re-signing him for a highly profitable £12 million + add-ons!
Meanwhile, if he's not currently first choice at WHL these days, that is explained by two reasons. First, Defoe (esp) and Crouch are playing out of their skins this season; second, Redknapp has favoured Defoe ever since their days together at WHU.
Then again, these things work both ways. For a period when he was manager, Martin Jol favoured Jermaine Defoe over Robbie, picking JD alongside Berbatov as his first choice strike duo. Then Defoe got injured and RK got his chance. The point is, when Defoe became fit again, he remained on the bench, since Robbie had established himself as Jol's new first choice partner for Berba.
And it's notable, too, with Redknapp needing to sell before he can buy in the present window, he's touting Pavyluchenko all around Europe, but wants to keep Robbie.
Now I would accept that Robbie is more a "scorer of great goals" than a "great goalscorer" (i.e. he is not so prolific as eg a Defoe or a Torres).
Nonetheless, he gets his share, whilst making a greater all-round contribution than other (mere) 'poachers'. Otherwise if it were not so, why do you think so many respected managers at so many top clubs would have paid £75m+ in transfer fees for Robbie down the years?
As for his contribution to ROI, I've not seen enough to express an opinion. Nonetheless, I can't help wondering who would have been leading the line for you over the last 10 years had Robbie never existed. David Connolly? Clinton Morrison? Leon Best? Gary Doherty?
As I said on an NI website recently when some fans were grousing about David Healy, we should all get down on our knees each evening and thank God for having him.
If I were an ROI fan (
Yes I agree Ireland were lucky to have him and he has done a good job but when needed most he faltered and that is why he was offloaded by those clubs because he can't be trusted to do the simple thing and scored the crucial goals.
5 June 2002 20:30
Germany 1 – 1 Republic of Ireland
(Klose 19) (Keane 90+ 2)
16 June 2002 20:30
Spain 1 – 1 (a.e.t.) Republic of Ireland
(Morientes 8) (Keane 90 (pen))
In your opinion, are these not crucial goals?
yes of course they were and as I said I was delighted at that time cos I thought he had matured as a player but after 2002 he has flip-flopped but when it came to putting away a sitter against France he didn't have the mental strength and thats what a lot of managers found out about him. Watch Traps reaction to that miss and it will tell you.
He should have used his foot, telekenesis is a difficult skill.
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He had all the time in the world to bend down and nod it in when you think about it
Jesus your like a broken record, you do remember that Keane did score that night as well with his only other good chance?!?! Surely that took a damn lot of mental strength and skill as well.
Yes we all agree with you that he missed a very good opportunity in Paris you dont need to repeat it a zillion times in many threads. But show me any top class striker that hasnt missed a big chance, can you name any other very good chance that Keane has missed for us in recent times?????
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