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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    40% comes down to the stadium itself. This would surely give Wales a significant edge over us.

    Wales confident over Euro 2020 bid
    That's if capacity is a large consideration. Aviva is the more modern stadium and may well outscore Cardiff in other areas (I don't know if it will, I'm just saying it isn't cut and dry that Cardiff leads on that score).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    40% comes down to the stadium itself. This would surely give Wales a significant edge over us.

    Wales confident over Euro 2020 bid
    cardiff airport is very small and has just one terminal. id say this will count against them as will their lack of hotel accommodation which is both very scarce and a rip-off for the big sporting events it hosts

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    Do you chaps believe the most noteworthy Welsh person of all time is T.E. Lawrence?

    Is this how it was when some of you chaps went to Poland? Check out this pic of a fan briefly on fire from this weekend:
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    Wembley looks set to host final and semi finals after an agreement with Germany.

    Dublin and the rest will learn their fate on tomorrow fortnight, 19th September.

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    Am I the only person that thinks Croke Park is a very ugly stadium in terms of aesthetics?

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    I think it looks incomplete, because of Hill 16, but I wouldn't say ugly. Anyway, it's Lansdowne that has been put forward.

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    That is something we seem to specialise in, incomplete stadiums.

    Half of them or three quarters of them look like decent enough stadiums and then the rest of it looks like a barn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    I think it looks incomplete, because of Hill 16, but I wouldn't say ugly. Anyway, it's Lansdowne that has been put forward.
    Correct me if I am wrong but I heard yonks ago that they cant redevelop it as its a historic site, the rubble of 1916 and all? Is that true?

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    Don't think that was the reason. Think it's something to do with the railway line behind that side of the stadium and planning permission. As far I know it's only a myth that it was built from the the 1916 rubble anyway and that has been replaced a couple of times since in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Am I the only person that thinks Croke Park is a very ugly stadium in terms of aesthetics?
    That we have a stadium of its capacity/magnitude is seen as a national achievement of sorts - and who doesn't like to blow their own collective trumpet - but it does look incomplete, imbalanced and certainly is no more a thing of beauty than other functional stadia of similar size elsewhere.

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    Correct me if I am wrong but I heard yonks ago that they cant redevelop it as its a historic site, the rubble of 1916 and all? Is that true?
    There's a row of houses on the Clonliffe Road behind the railway line. If the GAA wanted to expand Hill 16 to anything beyond the current single terrace, they'd have to purchase and demolish the houses. The railway line doesn't actually run in a direct parallel line with the end of the pitich either; that would add a further complication to expansion and is also why Hill 16 already looks a bit lop-sided anyway.

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    The Giants and Jets spent two billion on the new met life stadium that hosted the super bowl last year and it looks ugly as hell. I mean other than some well done modern architecture adorning the tops of some huge modern stadiums, and some well done baseball stadiums here like in Pittsburgh and San Francisco what is an example of a good looking stadium really? They are all kind of ugly, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    That we have a stadium of its capacity/magnitude is seen as a national achievement of sorts - and who doesn't like to blow their own collective trumpet - but it does look incomplete, imbalanced and certainly is no more a thing of beauty than other functional stadia of similar size elsewhere.
    It's a fine stadium I think and it could be argued that the 'incompleteness' gives it a bit more character, especially when Hill 16 is full for a big game.

    The sense of achievement is strongly linked to the GAA being an amateur organisation, but the fact that there was such heavy government funding involved should dilute some of their pretentious glorification. It doesn't though.

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    It definitely adds character and atmosphere. If given a choice between seated or terracing at a sports event, I always go with the latter for atmosphere. I find it difficult to sit at peace at a football match. It seems almost counterintuitive to remain seated whilst in an agitated state.

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    http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...9_DOWNLOAD.pdf

    UEFA offers basic summation of bids for Euro 2020. Seems positive enough about Dublin, bar some concerns over parking near the stadium and media facilities inside it.

    Edit: Just reading through some of the other bids. Jerusalem gets ripped to shreds, and they barely even mention the political situation in Israel.

    I dunno, Wembley is obviously getting picked, that leaves 12 spots for 18 cities. Taking away the unlikelys - Jerusalem, Minsk, maybe Sofia and, given the political climate and how they're hosting the World Cup, Saint Petersburg - I think Ireland has a great shot.
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    I haven't read the above link but I read elsewhere that UEFA has concerns about the financial side of Scotland's bid. No backhanders promised maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...9_DOWNLOAD.pdf

    UEFA offers basic summation of bids for Euro 2020. Seems positive enough about Dublin, bar some concerns over parking near the stadium and media facilities inside it.

    Edit: Just reading through some of the other bids. Jerusalem gets ripped to shreds, and they barely even mention the political situation in Israel.

    I dunno, Wembley is obviously getting picked, that leaves 12 spots for 18 cities. Taking away the unlikelys - Jerusalem, Minsk, maybe Sofia and, given the political climate and how they're hosting the World Cup, Saint Petersburg - I think Ireland has a great shot.
    Skopje looks to be out too. Too small, 1/3 of it is unseated and the infrastructure is non-existent.

    It looks like we might benefit from the fact the last two tournaments have been split between countries - takes Poland, Ukraine, Austria and Switzerland out of it right away.

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    The report is fairly glowing about Baku, but the distance might be an issue for an actual tournament right? It's a long flight for teams that might have played a game three days before hand and have another one three days after.

    I dunno, it just sort of seems to me like it would be more unlikely for Dublin not to be picked, but who knows what sort of backroom talks are going on with UEFA?
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    The report suggests that we have less work to do than all but the major countries in order to bring it up to code, and I think the fact we've never had a major championships in football before will count for us as well. I'd be very surprised and disappointed if we didn't get it.

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    Agreed. Plus Delaney really is a pro at this and appears to have made all the right moves. I'd be very surprised if we wern't included.

    Just read the document, interesting stuff. The Baku bid sounds crazy - massive stadium, state-of-the-art training centres for free - but the government there appears to be very keen. UEFA appear to like the noises they're making quite a bit.

    Jerusalem, Minsk and Skopje sound like they're out. Sofia too most likely. After that it's hard to say, but not sure if UEFA would pick England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Scotland or Wales to miss out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton View Post
    After that it's hard to say, but not sure if UEFA would pick England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Scotland or Wales to miss out.
    I wouldn't be so sure on that. This is a big project for UEFA and it will be difficult to pull together without problems. Having a geographically-concentrated base in Ireland and the UK, with the finals in London, could appeal to them.

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