I was being purely 'ironic'.Originally Posted by Junior
These vermin deserve only the worst....
Dont be silly. But they may have a little giggle about it over vol-au-vents at lunch time.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
I was being purely 'ironic'.
These vermin deserve only the worst....
and pathetically weakly unwilling to make a call against a big team by the linesman
Last edited by jbyrne; 30/11/2009 at 8:09 AM.
Do you think we could hire a hitman to take them all out?!
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And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
I know somebody in Birkenhead who would do it for a tenner and a bottle of Diamond White..
Well for once, one might hope they get all the deserved stick.
Though that's almost too good for those fools.
Apparantly Bono's spoken out in favour of the FAI/Irish approach. So, that's alright then!
Surely that finally seals it....
Yep, Bono has spoken, we're on the way to South Africa....deffo.
That page is made up bull**** here is a better view of exactly what happened
when the ball hits the hand given is nowhere near the linesmans line of sight
the first photo shows a clear line from the linesman to to the handball. proves what i always suspected in that the linesman saw it but didnt want to make the call
I don't think it proves anything.
It simply shows may have seen it.
To be fair to the linesman, even when I watch replays of it now, the angle shot facing Henry is the most difficult one to make out clearly what happens. He certainly had a better view than the referee, but it was a difficult call to make in real time, the ball does look like it strikes his stomach and then Given blocks the view of the second more blatant handball [at least in my opinion].
He should have called the offside though, that was criminal.
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Are there any stills of the offside call? I still haven't seen it.
The important things is I'm glad that the meeting definitively cleared everything up, and we can move on with our lives now...
That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
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Not a still but......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxw1-Id91lQ
Just pause on 0.27 in this clip - It highlights the offside. (You might want to mute it, not sure what the dodgy music is all about!)
EDIT: Not sure why I had to go and look that up.....fcuking Henry, fcuking Domenech, fcuking ref, fcukin linesman.......fcukin set me back a week that has............
Last edited by Junior; 03/12/2009 at 2:01 PM.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
The offside falls within a grey area.
The player didn't touch the ball, wasn't obstructing the goalie or blocking his line of vision or anything like that. It would have been very controversial if that offside was given, especially if France were to score. The French would fail to see where the player was interfering. The one area he was interfering was by preventing Dunne from rising to head the ball away, but again it was a grey area and the linesman probably didn't see him obstructing Dunne.
Of course it's in the interpretation of the grey areas where games are won and lost. One linesman would flag for that offside and people would say he was right. Another linesman would let it go and people would also say he was right since the player didn't seem to interfere with play.
There is too much subjectivity required of linesmen and referees and in this example the referee could only guess.
Video evidence would remove a fair amount of subjectivity and referees being unsighted. In tennis, it's difficult to see in real time where a ball bounces, and in rugby it can also be difficult in realtime for a referee to manouvre himself into the right position to spot a try.
Last edited by Emmet7; 03/12/2009 at 2:50 PM.
Agreed that he didnt touch the ball.
Though he certainly attempted to play it. He was also interferring with play as were any number of players in that group and could be deemed to be obstructing/influencing Givens view of the ball (perhaps not entirely blocking it but Im not sure that is the 'term' used in the rule, which I dont have to hand).
It was a very tight call though and if that alone was the dispute with the goal, we couldnt really make too much of a fuss. That really does happen week in week out.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
Why did I look at that??!!! The music is brilliant though.
tight call but offside all the same. was mentioned elsewhere (this thread or another) that once an offside player makes an attempt to go for the ball he is then deemed to be interferring
why on earth was that piece of music attached to the clip? its the first laugh i've gotten out of watching footage of that incident though!
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