Thread for ideas on video evidence in football.

**OwlsFan** · 13/07/2012, 1:04 PM

I think refs 4 and 5 will remain, hopefully to spot Thierry Henry type incidents.

I disagree that refs get very few decisions wrong. The number of incorrect penalty decisions is quite high. Football is a stop start game anyway with throw ins, goal kicks etc. A few extra to get decisions correct, I would have no objections to.

**Junior** · 13/07/2012, 6:11 PM

Not sure about Managers having a number of appeals. I can see how it works in tennis when the player is right on top of the incident (I recall a clear one that Federer called in the Wimbledon final and he was correct, the ball was a couple of inches out). But Managers? Most of the time at least half a pitch away from the incident, calling it out of pure emotion? How would they really have a better view of the incident for where they are - Probably just calling it and having their fingers crossed. Could become a right pain in the ar$e

**pineapple stu** · 14/07/2012, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

The number of incorrect penalty decisions is quite high.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that so.

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Football is a stop start game anyway with throw ins, goal kicks etc. A few extra to get decisions correct, I would have no objections to.

I can't agree to disagree on this though. What if a team wants to take a quick throw? Could they be called back by a manager "questioning" a decision? The game often restarts quickly; can't have managers interfering in that. And what if a counter-claim is put in - yes, it wasn't a blue throw, but was it a red free kick two minutes before? What's the time limit on appeals?

**NeverFeltBetter** · 14/07/2012, 2:43 PM

Originally Posted by Junior

Not sure about Managers having a number of appeals. I can see how it works in tennis when the player is right on top of the incident (I recall a clear one that Federer called in the Wimbledon final and he was correct, the ball was a couple of inches out). But Managers? Most of the time at least half a pitch away from the incident, calling it out of pure emotion? How would they really have a better view of the incident for where they are - Probably just calling it and having their fingers crossed. Could become a right pain in the ar$e

Works ok in American Football, from what I can see.

**Junior** · 14/07/2012, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

Works ok in American Football, from what I can see.

Not close enough to understanding the intricacies of American Football, but a game takes 4 hours in total right? Its pretty stop / start from start to finish - I certainly don't want that for our game!!

**NeverFeltBetter** · 14/07/2012, 10:53 PM

Managers get two "challenges" a game and their team is punished in terms of field position or a lost timeout if calls by refs are upheld. There are furthur rules regarding timing and just what can be refrred to a video ref. The limited number and punitive aspect means they are used sparingly. A edited version of that kind of system could work very well in association football. No one is going to waste such a challenge on a throw-in.

**the bear** · 17/07/2012, 5:19 PM

Mission impossible infra red lasers across the goal mouth. players will be issued with a print out ranking their performance after a match just like quasar

**osarusan** · 15/12/2016, 11:31 AM

Old thread I know, but a penalty was given based on video replay for the first time in a FIFA competition.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38318258

Japan's Kashima Antlers became the first side to benefit from a video replay in a Fifa competition as they scored a penalty in their 3-0 Club World Cup semi-final win.

Referee Viktor Kassai stopped the game after being alerted to an incident by his assistant, then gave a penalty after viewing footage on a monitor.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 15/12/2016, 2:18 PM

And again in the Real match today, for Ronaldo's injury time goal. That one was a messy affair, I think the opposition misheard the ref calling for it to be checked or something and took a quick free-kick for offside - it was the 93rd minute and they were down a goal, they wanted to get a move on - when the video ref confirmed it was legal, and the ref had to actually carry the ball himself to the halfway line.

Interesting to see it in practice anyway, and that it was called on so quickly in succession. Was watching the Crystal Palace/Man Utd game last night, there were at least five incidents that could have turned the game if a video ref was permitted another look.