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    Never a penalty imo.
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    Agreed , just looking at the replays it's clear that Kelly was only looking at the ball and Zayed bundled himself over him

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    Jesus that was a truely aweful experience!

    If I never set foot in that stadium again I will be a happy man.

    Well done to all the Rovers that made the trip.

    Just back to Manchester there and still havent fully thawed out.

    Nexty yeah eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrover View Post
    Was not a penalty and if it was Ciaran Kelly should have been sent off.

    By the way how can it be fair that a county council can use public funds to support a club. Notwithstanding Liam Buckleys fair comments ater the match there is a question over this type of funding arrangement.
    Yes. it was a penalty. Alan Kelly couldn't wait for Hilarious Collins to jet in from Malta to decide for him and initial reaction all around me was peno. If Zayed left his leg in or not is irrelevant. Kelly wasn't sent off because Keane had ruin past and was on the line. Goal was caused by Keane's header falling short, not by Ref or Zayed.

    Fingal County Council are funding a football concept of which the senior team is only the top of the pyramid. They are to be congratulated for their foresight and we should wish them well. as for Gerry Gannon, he is long gone past the day when he has to get anything out of sponsorship.

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    Gutted, distraught, so,so disappointed, feel like I parachuted out of a snakes arse, I feel so low.
    Never a penalty. Could only bring myself to watch the incidents this evening. Once again Alan Kelly has shown he likes to be the center of attention. Whether we were good enough yesterday or not, the facts are we were 1-0 up with minutes to go when a terrible decision changed the game. Kelly had no where to go. If every team won the match based on their performances, results would be alot different.
    Well done to everyone who travelled up, especially those on the north stand, what ye went through was horrendous.
    One question, how are we going to fit all those people into the showgrounds next season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by avvenalaf View Post
    Yes. it was a penalty. Alan Kelly couldn't wait for Hilarious Collins to jet in from Malta to decide for him and initial reaction all around me was peno. If Zayed left his leg in or not is irrelevant. Kelly wasn't sent off because Keane had ruin past and was on the line. Goal was caused by Keane's header falling short, not by Ref or Zayed.

    Fingal County Council are funding a football concept of which the senior team is only the top of the pyramid. They are to be congratulated for their foresight and we should wish them well. as for Gerry Gannon, he is long gone past the day when he has to get anything out of sponsorship.
    Never in month of sundays was it penaltyt.Zayed didnt even have control of the ball never mind,him leaving his foot in.Why is leaving his foot in irrelevant or not.that was the only contact made between the two players
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    Quote Originally Posted by avvenalaf View Post
    Yes. it was a penalty. Alan Kelly couldn't wait for Hilarious Collins to jet in from Malta to decide for him and initial reaction all around me was peno. If Zayed left his leg in or not is irrelevant. Kelly wasn't sent off because Keane had ruin past and was on the line. Goal was caused by Keane's header falling short, not by Ref or Zayed.

    Fingal County Council are funding a football concept of which the senior team is only the top of the pyramid. They are to be congratulated for their foresight and we should wish them well. as for Gerry Gannon, he is long gone past the day when he has to get anything out of sponsorship.
    Think you might want to look at this again, when the alleged offence took place Keane is actually a step behind or maybe in line with Mr. Zayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avvenalaf View Post
    Yes. it was a penalty. Alan Kelly couldn't wait for Hilarious Collins to jet in from Malta to decide for him and initial reaction all around me was peno. If Zayed left his leg in or not is irrelevant. Kelly wasn't sent off because Keane had ruin past and was on the line. Goal was caused by Keane's header falling short, not by Ref or Zayed.

    Fingal County Council are funding a football concept of which the senior team is only the top of the pyramid. They are to be congratulated for their foresight and we should wish them well. as for Gerry Gannon, he is long gone past the day when he has to get anything out of sponsorship.
    If Bord Snip gets it way Fingal will cease to exist as a county council. Saying that Sportings goodwill in the community after the cup win is sure to keep them alive

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    The question is equity and fairness in relation to funding of LOI clubs. Taxpayers funds should not be used to favour one club over another in a discriminatory manner.

    The penalty issue is futile at this stage as Fingal have won the cup. Funding is an ongoing issue and challenge for clubs and there is need to fully regularise the situation. No problem in supporting a football concept but if public funds are used all clubs should have equal access

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrover View Post
    if public funds are used all clubs should have equal access
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoops1 View Post
    Never a penalty imo.
    When have a Shams fan siding with us is a good sign,and shows we not been biais
    Till d End!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrover View Post
    The question is equity and fairness in relation to funding of LOI clubs. Taxpayers funds should not be used to favour one club over another in a discriminatory manner.

    The penalty issue is futile at this stage as Fingal have won the cup. Funding is an ongoing issue and challenge for clubs and there is need to fully regularise the situation. No problem in supporting a football concept but if public funds are used all clubs should have equal access
    Yea right, I remember your post echoing those very same sentiments when our corpo built the boundary wall and installed the car park in the showgies

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrover View Post
    The question is equity and fairness in relation to funding of LOI clubs. Taxpayers funds should not be used to favour one club over another in a discriminatory manner.

    The penalty issue is futile at this stage as Fingal have won the cup. Funding is an ongoing issue and challenge for clubs and there is need to fully regularise the situation. No problem in supporting a football concept but if public funds are used all clubs should have equal access
    Its futile alright but after Delaneys campaign during the weekIt be interesting to hear from him!

    Is simulation cheating?

    One just to point out I was never in favour of replay!
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    Was anyone here around for the 70, 78 and 81 finals? How does it match last night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubman View Post
    Yea right, I remember your post echoing those very same sentiments when our corpo built the boundary wall and installed the car park in the showgies
    The corpo have done this for their own means and not for the benefit of Sligo Rovers. The wall was due to the widening of the road as on any road widening works the boundary walls of any private area is reconstructed to high standard ie Strandhill road.As for the carpark it is to cover the area been lost in carpark spaces that willl be lost due to the construction work been done by treasury holdings(if ever it goes ahead).Its just fortunate we are benefitting from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovers1 View Post
    Was anyone here around for the 70, 78 and 81 finals? How does it match last night?
    Losing in a final doesn't get any easier to accept. 1970 was total heartbreak as that team were truely a wonderful side and probably the best Rovers side not to win a cup final. 1978 we were truely robbed no doubt about it but we had the whole of the second half to make amends for Carpenters bad decision and we did create the chances unfortunately drew a blank. 1981 we expected to do better but when the opposition score direct from a corner I guess you can say without fear of contradiction their name was on the cup. Yesterday with only seven minutes to play it seemed to me anyway that our name was on it but well... you were there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovers1 View Post
    Was anyone here around for the 70, 78 and 81 finals? How does it match last night?
    Wasnt at any of those finals but '78 "woz we were robbed final". Probably some similarities to that final in relation to the dodgy peno yesterday. Carpenter the ref in '78 brought heavy debate on himself in the Town Hall at the time and their was rantings of him been to be shot. Times have changed now and they are all gone soft so Kelly will probably get a cup of tea in the Mayors Parlour.

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    No problem as long as Fingal CC involvement is limited to funding boundary walls and tarmacing car park???!

    Incidentally even though penalty debate is futile agree that does raise around simulation/cheating.

    was at all finals mentioned ...losing never easy, 1978 left a particularly bad feeling ober very disputed penalty.

    anyway lets look forward...

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    Quote Originally Posted by red bellied View Post
    Wasnt at any of those finals but '78 "woz we were robbed final". Probably some similarities to that final in relation to the dodgy peno yesterday. Carpenter the ref in '78 brought heavy debate on himself in the Town Hall at the time and their was rantings of him been to be shot. Times have changed now and they are all gone soft so Kelly will probably get a cup of tea in the Mayors Parlour.
    The saying "what goes around comes around" is very true in the whole debate regarding Mr Carpenter. Yes he robbed us in 1978 but a year earlier in the 76/77 league campaign he awarded us a penalty in the showgies against Drogheda for a "hand ball" which photographic evidence proved it was never a penalty. Rovers went top that day and went on to win the title. Who knows a similar decision by Alan Kelly some day will be the catalyst for us collecting a piece of silverware. I doubt it but it remains a possibility.

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    Yeah and Kelly did miss Ventre's hand ball in the first half.

    1970 was an adventure and the replay against Cork Hibs 2 1 and the second game in the final trilogy with Bohs 0 0 were magnificent games of football. Could never hold it against Bohs and they did give it back to us in 1983.

    1978 was the real killer because it was against the lowest form of life (lfl). The man who won the penalty, Steve Lynex had played for us and left Sligo to go home to Birmingham as 'someone had stuck a gun in his face and told him to f uck off back to England'. He did, only to return to sign for lfl (Mustn't have known that Dublin was in Ireland though SHAMROCK Rovers was a decent clue) and win the 'penalty'. As an aside, I'd have to say that John Carpenter was one of the best and fairest refs I ever saw in the league. That lfl team was managed by John Giles and contained such luminaries as Eamonn Dunphy (spit) and Ray Treacy who slotted the penalty. The club were to be challenging for the European Cup within three years of the boys arriving (stop sniggering at the back) but alas all they succeeded in doing was to give Louis Kilcoyne an excuse for selling Milltown.

    An amusing aspect of the hullabaloo that reared it's head in Sligo was that a County Councillor who shall remain nameless let fly at a council meeting about John Carpenter and said some things which led to him being sued by the ref and he had to stump up some readies. Now, before or since, I have never seen that Councillor in the Showgrounds which proves the definition of a politician as a man in search of a bandwagon to jump on.

    TBH, I couldn't be arsed going in 1981 as there was no way under the sun that we could live with Dundalk and I wasn't about to inflict that on my, then, young sons.

    1983? Well that was 1983. Bit of a blur, really and until I shook Mick Ferry's hand on the MCR, I didn't really believe we had won it. In 1994, we did to Derry what SF did to us yesterday and that was why I was afraid of them. They had momentum without pressure.

    The general consensus is that we were unlucky but lets not make a long mourning session of this. The team and management behaved impeccably and so did the fans. Rovers made a lot of friends yesterday and lets be proud of that and remember that Bohs should have beaten us out the gate in the first game in Dayler.

    And it could be worse - it could have been the LFL.
    Last edited by avvenalaf; 24/11/2009 at 12:56 AM.

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