Trap calls the ref a Hannson nobody who should never have been sent to ref our match.
http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soc...259238341.html
The guy is upset understandably as we all are. This also seems to have revived sour past memories from 2002 for him. If any of the officials are to be blame, it has to be the linesman not the referee. Perhaps given the reaction of the Irish players he shouldve asked Henry at the time, who knows if he wouldve got a truthful answer.
I prefer to focus in on the fact that he said his dream is to lead us to WC2014, I for one am with you all the way Trap.
In fairness that's twice now he has been the victim of dodgy officiating in two big matches.
I would say it's most difficult for Trap.
All that travelling, all that training and coaching and stressing about every detail, injuries etc.
Players only have to worry about themselves.
Managers have to worry about all 23 players in the squad. The stress must be immense.
Trap has done a monumental job to be honest. He brought us to within a hair's breath of the world cup with a fraction of the talent the French have to choose from.
He truely is a world class manager and deserved more than to miss out on the world cup because of a certain player and worse a certain arrogant and unsporting French Football Federation.
But what's done is done.
But this campaign confirmed to me Trap knows what he is doing no matter what his detractors say. I don't believe there is any other manager in the world who could have done what he has done and he deserves gratitude from the Irish people.
Last edited by Emmet7; 20/11/2009 at 11:49 PM.
Yes, now if only he'd bring Andy Reid into the squad!
"Can I have a Kit-Kat, chunky?"
"you mean a big one"
"No a normal kit-kat you fat bitch"
Seriously...
What would have Andy Reid done on Wednesday night that the starting midfield/wingers didn't do and do well?
If there was a choice between having Trap as manager without Andy Reid in the squad or no Trap but Andy Reid in the squad, 99.9% of Irish fans would opt for the first option.
If Andy Reid never played for Ireland again, I personally couldn't care less. The guy obviously told someone in the management team where to go and his attitude generally up until he lost the weight recently was poor. It was far too late in the campaign at that stage to upstage the team.
Andy Reid wouldn't have done a fraction of what Keith Andrews did the other night. Andrews was up there for man of the match and he was dominant physically in the middle of the park.
No thank you.....not now.Originally Posted by Emmet7
"Can I have a Kit-Kat, chunky?"
"you mean a big one"
"No a normal kit-kat you fat bitch"
Personally I dont think that much blame lies with the ref, it's the linesman who should be sacked. I saw the ref go over and speak to the linesman for an absolute age, the ref didn't see the handball due to his position, but the linesman had a clear view. The officials lacked confidence in themselves and the linesman bottled it.
I thought ref had a decent game, It was the linesman who messed up, in fairness
he wouldnt have hit in a free kick like McGeady did right at the end....that's fo' sho'!
Folding my way into the big money!!!
I see Blatter has sent him off to the World Cup with his linesman as well. There's two fingers for us if there ever were:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/referees/
So despite missing one of the most glaring errors of all time, he gets the World Cup gig. Huge pressure on him I'd say. Could backfire (hopefully) on Blatter.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Despite him having a good game upto that point and unsighted for the handball
I don't blame the ref or the linesman, I blame the lack of technology. He had a very very good game if that incident is not considered.
I blame Henry for cheating.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
poor positioning by the ref which i blame him for
I understand that (the linesman is also going I think) but are there so few referees around that the team of officials which missed the most talked about football incident in years still goes to the World Cup? Didn't he officiate at a recent CL game and not do too great a job?
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Arsenal - Porto in Portugal I think ?
You don't blame the ref or linesman? Two players offside, obvious handball,ref won't discuss with third
official. Cop on
Cfdh
I think your right. It was the Sol Campbell/gk back pass mix up. Wenger had a fit on the touchline.
If that linesman is going to the WC then God help the two teams involved who get him running the touchline.
Last edited by shakermaker1982; 26/05/2010 at 9:53 AM.
were we not told at the time that he wasnt allowed discuss with the fouth official? however, on MNS last monday it showed an incident in the bray match where the ref sent a player off after discussing with the linesman AND the fourth official
There are more than a few high profile incidents where a ref's decision appeared to be heavily influenced by communication with the 4th official, at least from someone who was jabbering into his earpiece. I'd assume the ref would not have made already a decision or hesitated.
We have permission to feel insulted,
Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet wrote at the time.
"There will be no World Cup for Ireland and I assume that Team Hansson (ref and assistants) has also forfeited its right to continue to take charge of major international matches.
"Anything else would be a further insult to the Irish nation."
Was Wenger complaining that Hansonn allowed Porto to take the quick free kick?
No team should be allowed to take quick free kicks except Asenal
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