Roy Keane on Henry and John Delaney

**bennocelt** · 20/11/2009, 3:45 PM

Nothing at all wrong with what Roy said - the truth hurts

**Fr Damo** · 20/11/2009, 3:52 PM

Think you'll find he was Hon Treasurer and not Finance Director, and there is a world of difference. He wasn't even fulltime with FAi back then. As I said, the only reason he was on the media then was because he was left behind.

I Don't go want to go into the details about Saipan again, wish RK would do the same. THE TOOL.

**Alf Honn** · 20/11/2009, 3:58 PM

The man with the cheque-book is always full-time!

**Metrostars** · 20/11/2009, 4:00 PM

Bit funny him telling everyone to get over it. I'm sure Haaland wished that Keane had gotten over his vendetta way back when.

**CMcC** · 20/11/2009, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Poor defending

How can you defend properly against offside and handball?

Ever hear of playing to the whistle?
The offside (while it should have resulted in a free out) was not the reason McShane didn't deal with the situation.
If he did deal with it, TH would not have got near the ball to handle it.

**Milesmayhem24** · 20/11/2009, 4:09 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

What I'm saying is that he cheated, it was probably spur of the moment rather than anything premeditated. I doubt he was saying to himself "bugger, only 20 mins and it's a penalty shoot out, I'd better cheat next time I get the chance". Yes, players jostle and pull and do all kinds, but come on, don't tell me you can't see the difference between that and dekliberately using your hand to prevent a ball going out of play and setting it up nicely for a pass?

As for looking gift hoses, back to the original point - no Ireland player cheated in the Georgia game so it's not comparable. The Georgia penalty is more akin to, for example, Keane being allowed to score when obviously offside. It wouldn't be Keane's fault he was given onside, but it was Henry's fault he controlled the ball deliberately and more than once with his hand.

I find it hard to blame the ref as he was conned, but a linesman should have seen it, and the offside.

Yeah of course I can see the difference. But really it's just the degree of "cheating". Personally, I find diving a lot worse and there was a good bit of that on wednesday. Look at Anelka. The ref didn't give a penalty so must have thought it was a dive yet he didn't book him.

Regardless if someone cheated or not, it was a mistake by the officials (linesman most likely in this case), just as it was in the Georgia game. Even had he not handled it but taken it down on his chest, it still shouldn't have been allowed for the offside. Would we be calling for a replay then?

Anyway, Keane's comments about the players were ridiculous

**Billy-Green** · 20/11/2009, 4:14 PM

I'm absolutely fuming with Keane, how dare he stick his nose in this and sh*t stir. He is using this as an excuse to have a dig at the fai over past differences. A bitter little man who just won�t leave things be. He should be ashamed of his lack of backing for a replay and has done the fai and this country as a whole no favours in our attempt to get justice served. Shame on you Roy Keane!!!!!

**Greenbod** · 20/11/2009, 4:18 PM

Keane's opinions on International football should be given all the attention that the opinions of any failing rural east Anglian football club manager deserve.

......very little.

**OwlsFan** · 20/11/2009, 4:20 PM

Originally Posted by CMcC

Ever hear of playing to the whistle?
The offside (while it should have resulted in a free out) was not the reason McShane didn't deal with the situation.
If he did deal with it, TH would not have got near the ball to handle it.

How can you defend someone who is ahead of you because he if offside and if the ball hadn't been controlled with the hand it would have gone out of play?

**jebus** · 20/11/2009, 4:20 PM

Originally Posted by Greenbod

Keane's opinions on International football should be given all the attention that the opinions of any failing rural east Anglian football club manager deserve.

......very little.

So who do you support?

**Greenbod** · 20/11/2009, 4:21 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

So who do you support?

Ireland

**jebus** · 20/11/2009, 4:26 PM

Originally Posted by Greenbod

Ireland

So you don't support anyone at club level?

Also I've just watched the full Roy Keane interview rather than soundbytes and he is 100% right

I've never been a big fan of his, always believed he should have stuck out the World Cup in 02 and complained afterwards but he's spot on with everything he says in that interview, 100% correct Roy

**Greenbod** · 20/11/2009, 4:36 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

So you don't support anyone at club level?

Also I've just watched the full Roy Keane interview rather than soundbytes and he is 100% right

I've never been a big fan of his, always believed he should have stuck out the World Cup in 02 and complained afterwards but he's spot on with everything he says in that interview, 100% correct Roy

Never said I didn't support anyone at club level............the clue to what is being discussed here is at the top of your screen - Foot.ie forums>international>Ireland.

You are the hypocrite here.......Keane is taking to extreme, exactly what you have accused many on here of doing, ie..He's still droning on and bitter about a percieved injustice done to him. The difference is it was 7 years ago!, the injustice done to the Irish team was 2 days ago

Also, nothing he says, whether correct or incorrect, changes the fact that Henry cheated.

**Alf Honn** · 20/11/2009, 4:40 PM

I've never been a big fan of his, always believed he should have stuck out the World Cup in 02 and complained afterwards but he's spot on with everything he says in that interview, 100% correct Roy

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Agree. Maybe in the cold light of next week when the emotion subsides, it will become evident how much of a chance Ireland themselves spurned to reach the World Cup.

**Greenbod** · 20/11/2009, 4:46 PM

Originally Posted by Alf Honn

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Agree. Maybe in the cold light of next week when the emotion subsides, it will become evident how much of a chance Ireland themselves spurned to reach the World Cup.

This has been evident to most people all along........the point is, despite the spurned chances, and remember the French had practically no chances to spurn!, we still could have got through had Henry not cheated.

**OneRedArmy** · 20/11/2009, 4:47 PM

Originally Posted by Alf Honn

I've never been a big fan of his, always believed he should have stuck out the World Cup in 02 and complained afterwards but he's spot on with everything he says in that interview, 100% correct Roy

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Agree. Maybe in the cold light of next week when the emotion subsides, it will become evident how much of a chance Ireland themselves spurned to reach the World Cup.

Ourselves surely?

If its not, you're not really in a position to comment....

**jebus** · 20/11/2009, 4:50 PM

Originally Posted by Greenbod

Never said I didn't support anyone at club level............the clue to what is being discussed here is at the top of your screen - Foot.ie forums>international>Ireland.

Why bring Ipswich into it in such a derogatory way so?

They're a proud club with great fans and tradition

**Greenbod** · 20/11/2009, 4:53 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Why bring Ipswich into it in such a derogatory way so?

They're a proud club with great fans and tradition

I was referring to their current manager who had commented on my international team and who is the reason they are failing.

**Alf Honn** · 20/11/2009, 4:53 PM

Ourselves surely?

If its not, you're not really in a position to comment....

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Oh yes, as an Irish native, I am in a position. The players I refer to - us mere mortals on here couldn't defend or score goals in Paris.