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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    But.....for the IFA to have accepted FIFA's compromise offer, would have been absurd.
    Absolutely, 100%, correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeathDrog View Post
    Problem?
    No..fine by me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    What's confusing you?
    If you have mixed heritage, you can belong to more than one country.

    However this doesn't apply to the vast majority of people in the North. Mainly for historical, religious and cultural reasons.
    As stated earlier, 95% of the political representatives fall into either being British or Irish which is what is also indicative of their respective constituencies and how they see themselves.....

    If you fall into the other 5%, you must be quite a maverick?

    And though am probably in a minority of one in this thread, would have been happy to see the IFA select a 32 county team. Though guess one or two of the usual suspects on here would have not been too happy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    And though am probably in a minority of one in this thread, would have been happy to see the IFA select a 32 county team. Though guess one or two of the usual suspects on here would have not been too happy!!
    I'm just glad that the IFA Turkeys didn't vote for Christmas...somewhat surprised too.
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    They could have taken over the FAI with our blessing though.
    And until Paris blew up, they'd given us precious little to be proud of, off the field.

    Not the IFA seem any better. From what my spies tell me, they're even worse??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    If you have mixed heritage, you can belong to more than one country.

    However this doesn't apply to the vast majority of people in the North. Mainly for historical, religious and cultural reasons.
    As stated earlier, 95% of the political representatives fall into either being British or Irish which is what is also indicative of their respective constituencies and how they see themselves.....
    Aye...and those 95% of political representatives have sorted it, right enough.

    They say you get what you vote for...any wonder many don't vote.
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    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    They could have taken over the FAI with our blessing though.
    And until Paris blew up, they'd given us precious little to be proud of, off the field.

    Not the IFA seem any better. From what my spies tell me, they're even worse??
    A bit of a shambols AB...but I've hope our new CEO has a bit of savvy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    If you have mixed heritage, you can belong to more than one country.

    However this doesn't apply to the vast majority of people in the North. Mainly for historical, religious and cultural reasons.
    As stated earlier, 95% of the political representatives fall into either being British or Irish which is what is also indicative of their respective constituencies and how they see themselves.....

    If you fall into the other 5%, you must be quite a maverick?
    I'll quote you the relevant section of the Good Friday Agreement:

    The participants endorse the commitment made by the British and Irish Governments that, in a new British-Irish Agreement replacing the Anglo-Irish Agreement, they will:

    vi) recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to
    identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they
    may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both
    British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would
    not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland."

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    Well this thread shows you can't change history quickly, but we're prepared to wait.
    All good things and that.

    And if they can do it in Bosnia....though Srpska isn't playing ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    not catholic!? stab the b@sterd!!!
    ni ceapaim
    I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    I'll quote you the relevant section of the Good Friday Agreement:

    The participants endorse the commitment made by the British and Irish Governments that, in a new British-Irish Agreement replacing the Anglo-Irish Agreement, they will:

    vi) recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to
    identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they
    may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both
    British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would
    not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland."
    Aye, but everyone knows that was the ultimate fudge. An agreement to disagree!


    But accept the text as written. Though have never met anyone of either side in the North who'd say they were both, 'in the flesh'. Though if they really want to be so confused, more fool them, unless their heritage is of course mixed.


    Actually reckon more Nats would call themselves 'Northern Irish', away from the old hotspots these days. Though they wouldn't exactly appreciate the flag or anthem.
    But there are worse alternatives. Though to be fair not all the Prods. would accept those now either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Well this thread shows you can't change history quickly, but we're prepared to wait.
    All good things and that.
    Respect for difference might be a good start for change, don't you think?
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    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Aye, but everyone knows that was the ultimate fudge. An agreement to disagree!

    But accept the text as written.
    As ratified by the electorate in both jurisdictions on the island,
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    It's a start.

    But if you want to call yourselves 'Irish', you'll have to be more similar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    As ratified by the electorate in both jurisdictions on the island,
    And I've told you why. Not that it's the worst reason. Would have voted in favour at the time, though not on reflection now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    It's a start.
    But if you want to call yourselves 'Irish', you'll have to be more similar!
    You'll not be (BNP esque) dictating to me how I express my Irishness...best you get over yourself on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Would have voted in favour at the time, though not on reflection now.
    Shall we have another vote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    It's a start.

    But if you want to call yourselves 'Irish', you'll have to be more similar!
    Similar to what, may I ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Would have voted in favour at the time, though not on reflection now.
    Apologies for going off-topic admin but, to the above - why? .
    Last edited by The Fly; 08/12/2009 at 5:32 AM.

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    Haha, I know a couple of old guys here in Canada (family friends). Both raised in Ireland, one a Protestant Unionist from the North, one a Catholic from the Republic.

    Best friends. Those who leave Ireland realize the divisions are ridiculously superficial once they go to a place like Canada or the U.S. where the cultural makeup is amazingly diverse.

    Working together we can achieve so much more than we can apart- okay we may lose a bit of our old identity, an identity based on differences rather than common ground- but we will create a new identity as one Irish team, stronger, more competitive, and most importantly, united.
    Eirebhoy's "We Love You" Chant. RIP:

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