Thierry Henry

[Riddickcule]

Football, in general, is a joke.

[John83]

In Ireland, among some of us

People seem to think the rest of the world actually care about this.

Other forums I've been on have the Brits laughing about it and wondering when we'll stop going mental over it

On other football forums I've visited, everyone from Arabs to Australians have the same range of reactions as here, even much of the same vitriol.

[Den Perry]

another self-hating irishman who then relates it to "the oul' enemy" as if that has anything to do with it

if you're happy to slink away, by all means.

We'll never know what would have happened the other way around. we have to work with what we're given.

Of course there won't be a replay and of course henry will get over it. but you better believe he'll know how we feel about it for a few weeks. those of us attending the games (at home admittdly) and putting up with screaming french fans in the pub being smug (although looking at their faces at full time was fun) have earned it. (incidentally diarra says he "deserves" his world cup spot. barely able to acknowledge we were there at the game. At least wenger and lizaraxu had some cl


now I see why I post so rarely.

any links to what Wenger and Lizaraxu said?
cheers

Honestly, we would of all loved to have enjoyed Ireland at the WC in SA next summer. But really... This is just pathetic and says a lot about why as a nation we are a joke on so many levels. We are like a culture of sociopaths who use the "pity play" tactic when life deals us a harsh card, yet if this was the other way around and Robbie Keane did the same we would be gloating and looking forward to beating the "oul enemy" next summer while destorying our livers and making publicans richer.

Yeah I can see this multi-millionaire, otherwise incredible player with a glorious history really giving a damn what a bunch of Paddies with a modem connection care.

Get a life, please.

I bet if Gary Twigg did to Bohs what Henry did last night,you'd be just as passionate as those complaining here.Just because you are a LOI fan, (which I am and have been for many years) should not make you less of an Ireland fan..and despite what you say, that's the impression given here.You may not have stated it explicitly,but I think its the pretty obvios interpretation.In addition, your continued sniping is that of somebody with a serious inferiority complex

KOH

[Boh_So_Good]

I bet if Gary Twigg did to Bohs what Henry did last night,you'd be just as passionate as those complaining here.

Honestly I wouldn't. I am being serious. I like football, I like Bohs. But I understand that none of this underpins my emotional, psychological and personal relationship to the world around me as a whole.

At the end of the none of this really matters. Just a bit of entertainment and to take it too seriously is very unhealthy.

I know because I used to be just like what you described above and when you step away from it and look back at yourself you realise that a lot the emotions you thought were your own, were actually implented into from outside of yourself.

This is why you are so upset. It mass hysteria regardless of it you want to accept it or not.

[Magicme]

Dear Thierry, I hate what you did but I still love you. Will you marry me?


That would be the best punishment for him to have to put up with me for the rest of his days.

[dynamo kerry]

any links to what Wenger and Lizaraxu said?
cheers

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...6B592f7j9QvOvA

I can't find the wenger one now but he has been pretty decent about it

noen of these guys are suggesting replays mind you. of course.

[Den Perry]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...6B592f7j9QvOvA

I can't find the wenger one now but he has been pretty decent about it

noen of these guys are suggesting replays mind you. of course.

thanks mate

[jebus]

JEBUS....just amazed reading your posts how wonderfully straightforward life is for you a football fan whose team were just knocked out of the world cup (controversially apparently..according to almost everyone else)..just one question.....How is Walter Mitty these days

yes because I'm the one being delusional about this process

I've made my points about how hypocritical I feel Irish fans are being about this in another thread, I assume you've read those, so please take me up on where I have gone wrong and I'll happily debate you on it

[peterc1992]

This is nonsense. Henry was not a fault, the linesman and the referee were.

Are we now going to do what the English do and talk about death threats etc., etc. ?

The ref should have dissalowed it ,but it doesnt give henry an excuse....so you saying its not thierry henrys fault AT ALL for delibertaly attempting to handled the ball to help his team score ....Very desperate by henry,Very desperate by france also,they are meant to be a big dog country and they have to come down to this to win against a mediocre side like us.

[Vermicious Knid]

The ref should have dissalowed it ,but it doesnt give henry an excuse....so you saying its not thierry henrys fault AT ALL for delibertaly attempting to handled the ball to help his team score ....Very desperate by henry,Very desperate by france also,they are meant to be a big dog country and they have to come down to this to win against a mediocre side like us.

To be fair he should have let the ball go. He knew he was offside, he should have did the decent thing and let it roll for a goal kick on acocunt of him being offside, then he would not have to make the decision about handling the ball.

In fact, the game should be self regulated by the players employing the honour system.

[jebus]

The ref should have dissalowed it ,but it doesnt give henry an excuse....so you saying its not thierry henrys fault AT ALL for delibertaly attempting to handled the ball to help his team score ....Very desperate by henry,Very desperate by france also,they are meant to be a big dog country and they have to come down to this to win against a mediocre side like us.

So I assume you think Robbie Keane was a cheating desperado when handling in the box as well?

How about how we did Georgia out of two points in the group stages by not pointing out to the ref that he gave a penalty when we never should have had one?

Should we have offered a replay there too?

Serious answers please, I'm sick of the usual silence or 'you're a wum' response

[peterc1992]

yes because I'm the one being delusional about this process

I've made my points about how hypocritical I feel Irish fans are being about this in another thread, I assume you've read those, so please take me up on where I have gone wrong and I'll happily debate you on it

you commented on that itf it was the other way around we wouldnt complain..well it isnt,maybe it was instinctive by henry and alot of people would have done it but then he goes off celebrating and if it didnt happen.The ref should have seen it and the whole irish team saw it.If i was one of those players i wudnt been able to contrl my temper...Its a disgrace.Henry is a disgrace and i that incident follows him to the grave.


He could have done a robbie fowler on it and admitted to not being fouled.If he is SUCH a great ambassador to the game he would ahve done that but instead he chose to escape and show how desperate his country were.

[peterc1992]

So I assume you think Robbie Keane was a cheating desperado when handling in the box as well?

How about how we did Georgia out of two points in the group stages by not pointing out to the ref that he gave a penalty when we never should have had one?

Should we have offered a replay there too?

Serious answers please, I'm sick of the usual silence or 'you're a wum' response

Are you reffering to robbie keane hand ball's last night? Well was he penalised for them and a free out was given?

Cant comment on the georgia one because to tell you the truth i cant remember but i remember we just scraped it.

[Acornvilla]

talking to all the lads on my sweedish team on football identity and they all think its a disgrace

[jebus]

Are you reffering to robbie keane hand ball's last night? Well was he penalised for them and a free out was given?

Cant comment on the georgia one because to tell you the truth i cant remember but i remember we just scraped it.

Doesn't change the fact that Robbie tried to cheat and so is as big a disgrace as Henry (in some people's eyes) does it? Just means Henry got away with it and Robbie didn't

And why do you, and otehrs, seem to think Henry was once this shining example of sportsmanship? Remember his dive in World Cup 06 against Spain that set France off to a 3-1 win? He falls over quite easily for Barcelona every week as well, as does Messi, and Zlatan. Are they any less cheats than Henry?

[Predator]

I can't believe people are bringing up Keane's hand-balls as some sort of refutation to the outrage over Henry's actions. Setting aside the fact that Keane was penalised for each of the incidents involving hand-ball, I don't think one of them was truly intentional, as Henry's clearly was.

[cavan_fan]

Doesn't change the fact that Robbie tried to cheat and so is as big a disgrace as Henry (in some people's eyes) does it? Just means Henry got away with it and Robbie didn't

And why do you, and otehrs, seem to think Henry was once this shining example of sportsmanship? Remember his dive in World Cup 06 against Spain that set France off to a 3-1 win? He falls over quite easily for Barcelona every week as well, as does Messi, and Zlatan. Are they any less cheats than Henry?

The problem you have is that you see no scale in offences. You seem to struggle that Henry's offence was different from a run of the mill issue. I think if Anelka had got the pen and they had won from that we'd all be angry but I dont think we'd feel the same. Henry did something that shocked even regular football watchers around the world.

[jebus]

I can't believe people are bringing up Keane's hand-balls as some sort of refutation to the outrage over Henry's actions. Setting aside the fact that Keane was penalised for each of the incidents involving hand-ball, I don't think one of them was truly intentional, as Henry's clearly was.

I think at least one of them was intentional and as I said, it doesn't matter that he was caught, he was still cheating

Setting aside the handballs Keane is one of the main culprits week in, week out in the Premiership for trying to influence refs into giving corners, frees, throws, whatever when he knows damn well they're not his teams. That's cheating as well and I find it very hypocritical of him to moan about Henry cheating Ireland when he tries to do likewise to other teams every week, and I find it even worse that some people who watch football are equally hypocritical in pretending that cheating doesn't happen in every match nowadays

Can any of honestly say you've never shouted for the ref to give a corner/penalty/whatever when watching your LoI team even though you know no foul has been committed or the ball hit your player last?

Cavan Fan: I've said throughout this that I think there are two sides to this, whether you condemn cheating in all it's forms, or you don't, there's no middle ground whereby some of it is okay, other things aren't. Dunne tugging the shirt of Govou during a corner so he can't jump is cheating, Anelka diving is cheating and Henry and Keane using their hands is cheating.

You either think that it's okay to do so or you don't. I think it's that simple

[byrner01]

Imo, i think the game should be replayed. I really think its time for video replays to be used also , but for action leading to a goal only.

[jebus]

Imo, i think the game should be replayed. I really think its time for video replays to be used also , but for action leading to a goal only.

I liked the idea the RTE panel talked about last night of adopting tennis' approach and giving a manager 1 or 2 calls per match where he can ask for the ref to look at video footage.

Either that or just put linesmen beside the posts of the goal with flags