QuoteYou are dead right there, no comparisson in what Rusty did with virtually no money and a bunch of kids to what Buckley spentOriginally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
It must not be shared, all of it goes to Bohemians.
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...529&Itemid=318
Compensation & Solidarity Payments
- Compensation Payments conclude when a player's training is completed
- Thereafter, Solidarity Payments are applicable if a player is transferred during contract
- Example: If Michael Owen had moved from Liverpool to AC Milan at age 19, when out of contract, training compensation payment would have been payable by Milan to Liverpool.
Solidarity Payments
If the same move had occurred when the player was in contract, the transfer fee would have been negotiable and 5% of this amount would then have been distributed pro-rata to all clubs involved in his training since the age of 12
Last edited by DmanDmythDledge; 23/12/2009 at 10:55 AM.
You are dead right there, no comparisson in what Rusty did with virtually no money and a bunch of kids to what Buckley spent
was going to post the above last night. And the following CAS decision which i believe states that the rate is e60,000 per year. Pro-rata that would be about e100,000 for Bohs as a category 2 club. I found a better decision last night but cannot find it today.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...114461_816.pdf
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
So where do you get the 15% sell on clause from? A Christmas bonus?
okay, so i proved you wrong on the first point so you move on to the second point and the truth is, i dont know the ins and outs of the deal.
But remember, it was written as commentary, not a quote from the club so its either true or its not. If it is, great. If not, oh well we still got some compensation.
Either way, i cant for the life of me understand why a sell on clause for a player (who declined a move to you twice) is of so much concern to you and BYCMRPX. Though maybe if BYR2D2C3PO could locate that source i asked him for regarding Deegan having re-signed for Bohemians then that might shed some light on the matter for the two of you.
Last edited by SkStu; 23/12/2009 at 5:41 PM.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
It was reported in the national press that Deegan had re-signed, and seemed to be presented as fact.
Why does it interest me so much? To be honest, it doesn't. Bohs are in a dire financial state regardless of the 15% sell on clause so I don't really care. I just find it very bizarre that you did seem to think that Bohs were going to get a ridiculous 15% sell on clause, simply because you've perhaps heard it on the Dalyer grapevine.
It's not that I really care about the fee, its just crazy that anyone involved in Bohs would believe such a ridiculous thing (think about it for thirty seconds, why would Coventry gift you hundreds of thousands in possible future fees? and why would Deegan sign a new contract just to give bohs thousands, do you really think that could have happened?) after already being fed such rubbish from your board (or wherever it is that these stories leak from) in the past.
It's like the conspiracy that was against Bohs for a few weeks last season when the FAI, and RTÉ were bizarrely out to get you when you lost a few games for the first time in two years. Do you actually believe the crap that comes out of Dalymount, it seems you guys buy anything and everything you're told.
BTW, you didn't prove me wrong on any point. From my first post in the thread I've been questioning why Coventry would potentially give Bohs hundreds of thousands, and I still do.
Also slagging off BYCTWD because of his username is about as cutting as the people who wittily refer to others as things like Craptown, Scumrock Rovers, Anfailed, Mold Trafford etc. A tad cringeworthy.
Again, i have to say that you seem to care way too much.
Its pretty well established from the link provided earlier that Bohs got a considerable compensation payment from Coventry for Deegan. Somewhere in the region of e75,000-e120,000. Regardless of anything else it is a tidy sum for a player who was offered a contract a month ago but hadnt signed.
One or two of the reports mentioned a possible sign on fee but nothing from the club release mentions sell on fees so there was some speculation on our message board-that you have mentioned above-as to how this might be the case. None of it was ever presented as fact, just ideas or speculation from message board posters as to how this might be. Im not registered on your fans message board but im sure if i chose to spend as much time reading the SRFC message board as you spend on the Bohs message board, i would have plenty of similar examples of Rovers fans speculating wildly on a whole host of issues. Welcome to internet forums.
I chose to mention it in, guess what, a rumours thread. Somebody else said that Deegan re-signed to give the club money with a bigafter the post. Stop taking it all so seriously. And you should really stop asking everyone here to believe that it came from the club itself.
Nice try (not really).
How is it anything like that? Whatever it is youre talking about.
My post was addressed to you and the other Rovers poster who said that we would not get anything, at all.
Scumrock Roversclass, i havent heard that one in a while, will have to start using it again.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Only in this league are fans of a club happy to see a good player leave their club, while their rivals seem upset he's gone and the "selling" club didn't get full value
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how would they decide on the pro rata between each forementioned club???
Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?
Gareth McGlynn and Ruari Higgins rumoured to have signed for Bohs.
Got to admit, I'll be fecking delighted if this is true. That's 2 less of last seasons squad that Derry will have for the first division.
Nutsy is quoted as saying he turned down the Peterboro job, their chairman said it was standard practice to discuss a contract before all interviews.
Not sure who these Gerrys are but fair play to Tony Maguire for turning things around for Rovers.
[QUOTE=BYCTWD;1297263]I'm not upset they didn't get value.
Well thats as accurate a statement as you have posted on Bohs related matters to date, Bohs related issues taking up maybe 90% of your posts?
Whatever about the particulars of the financial benefit to Bohs of the Deegan deal, it does show that clubs have to balance the financial need for shorter term contracts with the realisation that cross channel clubs can swoop for baragains at the end of each contract period. I can`t see many LOI clubs having the financial confidence to go to two year deals and then only for a handful of players in the league. The 65% pretty much dictates one year deals.
The clubs best hope for transfer fees in the future is to focus on selling players in the British pre -season with the risk of derailing any Euro or league /cup ambitions.
Yeah McGlynn would be a huge loss to us and a great signing for Bohs
Alan Cawley has signed for Dundalk
http://dundalkfc.com/news/091224_Signing.asp
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thats a surprising signing for Dundalk.. I would have thought that he would have stayed with Pats...
Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?
a big step sideways...
the only thing that wont change for him is that he wont be playin in europe for dundalk next season...
Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?
or will he?
yes Dodge, im clearly ecstatic over Deegans departure.
We got compensated for Deegan and you were sent a link proving that we would be entitled to two years compensation as a category 2 club - get over it ye fool.I'm not upset they didn't get value. I'm suggesting they got hee haw and the 'fee' is as reliable a leak as we have come to expect from their men in the red tops. The same people who, for example, said nutsy turned down the Peterboro job - when in fact he hadn't been offered it.
More bull leaked from the Gerrys to the press and the D7 faithful lap it up as gospal.
I seem to remember the same level of supposed gullibility from Scumrock Rovers fans when everything was crashing down around them and they were misappropriating funds and at the same time failing to pay everyone - "2 to 3 weeks lads, your stadium will be ready in 2-3 weeks", "oh yeah, that stadium grant, yeah yeah its kosher, dont worry", "we promise that you'll have clean laundry this week lads, trust us"took it as gospel.
Things have changed massively in Dalymount over the last 6 months and the supporters and members are overwhelmingly positive that the new board has the desire and ability to turn things around. But you can ignore that and keep on trotting out the tired old crap that suit your arguments. I really couldnt give a flying one.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
He wasn't offered a deal at Pats. Nice guy. Played well in patches but needed an age on the ball, and far too found of passing it back to a full back. Wouldn't be too many sorry to see him go I'd imagine
Last edited by Dodge; 24/12/2009 at 3:36 PM.
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