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    Our pundits will not rest until there is discipline, cohesion, and samba football!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet7 View Post
    He also started in what was Stan's last game against Cyprus in Croke Park which proved to be the final nail in the coffin of Stan.

    For something like 90 minutes we huffed and puffed against the might of, wait for it, Cyprus, with the great Andy Reid pulling the strings in midfield. We eventually got a goal from a defender in the last minute or two which was probably not deserved.

    And if this guy cannot drive Ireland from the centre of the park to a convincing win over Cyprus at home, then what hope has he against the French in Paris? None.

    But these are realities the pundits would rather ignore. The longer Reid is out of the team, the better he gets in their mind. But the reality is Reid was part of the least effective attacking and defensive Irish team in a generation. And he will not give us the defensive steel we need against creative teams in the centre of the park. As a wide player maybe, but not the centre of the park.


    here we go again...

    I'd love to get a poll started as to whether Emmet the 7 year old is the most disrespectful poster on this forum.If anybody disagrees with his views on Andy Reid they are accused of being a "Dunphyite" or being "led by the media"

    I know we all probably annoy people at times,and have insulted one another, but this guy has to be the greatest moron ever to consistently post on this great site
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yard of Pace View Post
    One other thing, although the IT is usually excellent, Tom Humphries begins his column today with

    which is a horrible thing to write at this stage.
    Humphries is a joke, haven't read a word he's written in years. Head stuck so far up his own backside he hasn't seen a game in years either

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    Tom Humphries Article/Drivel

    Officially no longer a fan of Tom Humphries self important musings...What poor timing, particularly when no one requested a "dose of realism". Keep your opinions to the bar of the GAA Clubhouse Tom, the rest of remain true supporters who will retain hope (until its officially extinguished) for an epic voyage in South Africa...

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...258923337.html

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    Humphries in anti football article? Shocker.

    Away and cry into your pint Tom about yer buddies in Tallaght.
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    Humphries like the rest of the Irish football hacks is just bitter cause he won't get a free junket to South Africa with a great potential for a book afterwards - that is of course if we don't qualify. If we do, I am boycotting his spin-off self indulgent penned tome.

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    He is not a football fan.
    In Trap we trust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality Bites View Post
    Humphries like the rest of the Irish football hacks is just bitter cause he won't get a free junket to South Africa with a great potential for a book afterwards - that is of course if we don't qualify. If we do, I am boycotting his spin-off self indulgent penned tome.
    what a cnut Humphries is. This guy and Curtis are far worse than Dunphy
    in my opinion

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    I read it earlier and had no problem with it.
    Where's the issue? The main thrust of the article is that the national psyche has changed hugely since 1990, which it has
    <insert witty remark>

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    Listening to Newstalk this evening they had a French Hack on for his opinion on match, the same guy was attacking Domenech last week as being weak and indecisive,this time around he was hailing him as a tactical genius who was well in control of the french camp and he accused Trap of being tactically poor and inept with Tardelli calling the shots...just goes to show you, you can't win in football management, but if we do get something on Wednesday I really want to chase down the next interview with this guy.

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    Ah you get sick of listening to the pundits and experts after a while.

    If you listen long enough you hear it all and especially how they contradict themselves over and over again and feel no shame or embarassment in contradicting themselves. They only have to be right once in a blue moon to be hailed as experts, but a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    Once more Trap shows his intelligence and experience by completely ignoring everything pundits have to say. He knows well they have nothing to teach him, nothing!

    What I find most unbeliveable is they cannot see when certain players just aren't doing the business, and instead they talk about how these players were great in the past. Yes, but they aren't doing it in the particular game we need them to do it in.

    No player should be left on the field if he isn't adding something to the team or doing their job. A forward's job is to create chances, shoot on goal and hopefully score. Our forwards did none of that the last day and haven't done it in ages because of the current partnership. It just isn't set up right to create concrete scoreable chances. I could live with it if our forwards were capable of scoring from scraps and half chances like Anelka and Henry are capable of doing. Unfortunately our forwards need very scorable chances before they score and Robbie Keane is infamous for needing a lot of chances in the box before finally scoring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    I read it earlier and had no problem with it.
    Where's the issue? The main thrust of the article is that the national psyche has changed hugely since 1990, which it has
    firstly he said anelka shot deflected of st ledgers derrier ( arse) which it did not,.. but take more offence at him describing irish fans as drunks and ignorant fools when we go away to away matches / tournaments a flucking disgrace by him to try and label the best fans in the world as a bunch of drunken leprucahuns

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    Humphries knows nothing about the game and I'd be very surprised if he has ever played in a competitve match.

    He is basically an outsider looking in and that gives him a certain perspective that football insiders don't have but inevitably means he has little insight into football. He is more often than not cynical and with a "seen it all before" attitude which usually covers for the fact he doesn't understand football.

    Plus he was central to Roy Keane being sent home from Saipan by stirring sh*t. The decision to print the Roy Keane interview probably cost us a quarter final place in the WC if not further.

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    Just read Tom Humphries piece in the Irish Times

    Cannot remember being so angry about a piece of journalism in a long-time. Hope all this negative, self-important guff that the Irish papers' keep spewing out (to be fair it usually comes from the Sunday Independent) doesn't spawn a generation of self-loathing Irish people

    I use to have some respect for Humphries but he just comes across like a jaded hack in this piece.

    The pomposity of it is what really galls though. Just because he seems to have fallen out of love with his country doesn't mean everyone else has.

    As Mark Twain said: "Loyalty to your country always. Loyalty to your government when it deserves it."

    Just because the country has been f**cked over by those running it, doesn't mean all of us care for it any less. This is our NATIONAL TEAM we are talking about.

    The pride of being Irish generates the drinking and the partying, not the other way round.

    Come on Ireland….

    I'd love to see Traps pull off a masterstroke in Paris so that we could watch all these idiots pathetically backtrack.

    It is sad that I have to read the English papers for solid, well reasoned reporting of the Irish team. I think David Hytner in the Guardian usually calls it quite well.

    But the Fannings, Dunphys and Humphries of this world? Traps has forgotten more about football than these clowns will ever know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet7 View Post
    Humphries knows nothing about the game and I'd be very surprised if he has ever played in a competitve match.

    He is basically an outsider looking in and that gives him a certain perspective that football insiders don't have but inevitably means he has little insight into football. He is more often than not cynical and with a "seen it all before" attitude which usually covers for the fact he doesn't understand football.

    Plus he was central to Roy Keane being sent home from Saipan by stirring sh*t. The decision to print the Roy Keane interview probably cost us a quarter final place in the WC if not further.
    Most of these hacks just landed a job at a newspaper and happened on the sportswriting gig...and eventually hung around long enough to make a name for themselves. They're not football people...with a few exceptions of course.

    As for RTE, it's a joke at this point. There is no analysis of the game. It's overly negative and completely unbalanced. Souness is the only one who makes sense. Anyway, f uck them all.I watched the game with French commentary the last day and it was actually refreshing not to have to listen to someone else's opinion sway your view of the game.

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    Not a fan of Humph at all, seeing as he clearly idolises the gaa about every other sport I dont see why he should be writing about our sport. However I was expecting a far worse article from the clown than he did write, maybe hes saving that with the hope that Ireland wont do it wed. Something along the lines of how Ireland not in the WC is good for the GAA.....

    Anyways, the worst piece has to be the one written by Pat Dolan in I think the star yesterday, one telling Trap to call up A Reid, ok nothing too crazy there but wait for this he agrees with SI that there is too much emphasis in the Ireland team on dublin players and not Cork players. Like WTF, whatever respect I had for the big mess is now long gone. Shocking journalism. The only decent football journalist we have imo is Liam Mackey.

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    It's Pat Dolan. He's not a journalist.

    As for the Humph piece, don't really see the big deal. It's just his usual self-important, uninformed guff. To anyone getting worked up, it is Humphries after all.
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    Everyone here seems to be a bit hard on the RTE Panel. I think the RTE Panel are great. They tell it like they see it. I love the Irish team but in all fairness the current squad isn't up to much. I have seen better games up in my local Park. I wish them all the best for wednesday. They may as well go out of the tournament now in a blaze of glory none of this boring stuff - keeping every man in defence and bore your opposition into losing. just go for it , i mean the chances are anyway they will loose so they may as well just go all out from the start and give it 1000000000000 %
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    Giles and Dunphy haven't been involved with football in any meaningful manner for decades. They know no more about the modern game than most of us do, except many on here at least watch a bit outside the Premiership.

    Humphries should stick to what he knows, underage Dublin camogie. There are a number of threads detailing his pomposity already, but after his stance on Tallaght, its clear he isn't a football supporter.

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    It surprises how little Giles knows about the game, I expect it from Dunphy but Giles was a top player in his day. Ronnie Whelan is clueless & cliche-ridden. Souness must laugh his head off with his mates telling them about working with Giles & Dunphy. Humphries should emigrate if feels that way,his timing again was impeccable.

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