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    Quote Originally Posted by wexfordned View Post
    Quite a few people on this thread happy to see Ireland beaten, (which they've admitted) which is nearly as bad. I can't understand how anyone could take delight in an Irish team losing in any sport.

    What makes Ireland's WC performance so disappointing is they went into it with expectations to go a long way in the tournament. None of the we're just happy be here or win or lose we're on the booze nonsense.

    Finally anyone who uses that bitter hate fuelled so called journalist Ewan McKenna to back up their beliefs has already lost the argument
    what? cheer for some posh fellas with funny accents, give me a break, delighted they fecked up

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Football is the most popular participation sport in New Zealand: https://www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/li...reation/sports
    That says a whole lot about the whole participation line when brought up about football in Ireland too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    But there's still so much that winds me up. I'm a white collar professional in London. As Owls Fan said about his Leeds(?) scene, the sheer underlying assumption I'm a rugby fan first & foremost (if not only) by my fellow Irish at professional networking events just makes me weep. Not to mention being invited to drinks receptions on the night of Irish footy games which has happened a lot
    I have worked for a good few consultancies and banks at this stage. And I'm actually beginning to think that this is what turned me off Rugby as much as anything else. I used to attend any games I could get tickets for when I lived in Dublin, but since I came over to London my interest has seriously waned for it. I would put that side of it down to all the Irish I worked with*, who mainly came from private schools in Ireland, mainly Dublin and Cork but also Limerick. That and the GAA stuff I did, who would have seen Rugby as their "other" sport, even though they have no real connection to any club and also thought Rugby was the main sport behind GAA which it clearly isnt and never was in Ireland.

    I remember around the time of Croke Park opening up, it was as if it were only opening up for Rugby, the lads over here who most had never even been in croke park nevermind a GAA game explaining to English lads what it was all about...they hadn't a fcuken clue and then trying to dumb it down for English colleagues. Used to really grate me.
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    I met an old school mate at a financial conference in London around Easter time. I told I had just been home and had taken my son to Shamrock Rovers at Tallaght. He looked at me with a totally confused look on his face. "Aren't they, you know, kind of like Celtic?" I genuinely think he didn't even know about the LOI. He's from Terenure/Rathfranham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Football is the most popular participation sport in New Zealand: https://www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/li...reation/sports
    I met two NZ tourists, husband and wife in their 70s, in our hotel in Bordeaux during the Euros. I was explaining the format to the husband and he generally didn’t know very much about football. His wife knew a bit more and said her daughter’s kids and most of the kids of their age are now playing more football than rugby because of the fear of head injuries.

    It also winds me up when people bang on about how huge rugby is in Wales. Even Newport & Wrexham get broadly comparable crowds to the Pro14 teams, and the big two get massively more, week in, week out. There was a radio documentary "In Wales The Ball Is Round" exploring the perception of rugby being the Welsh national game on BBC4 during the Euros. The narrator was saying never once in his days in school was the Monday morning chat about rugby, it was always about MOTD. There are rugby dominated areas, but these are small towns in the sticks for the most part. North Wales is totally football (southern Liverpool basically).

    I think I've made both of these points before on this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Goons in the media, statements from World Rugby when they can never say anything positive about their game without separating it from football, friends who are rugby supporters only...

    I think I told you offline once how I was almost literally ambushed by two pals in a West London pub one night. Vincent Browne wrote an IT column saying that amid all the adulation rugby gets it’s worth noting that there’s a boorish, hard-drinking frat boy culture associated with it and a fair degree of misogyny too. I had the temerity to post a comment underneath the article saying that despite his sensational tone and exaggerations, there’s an element of truth to it. So it wasn’t even a whole endorsement. I added that there’s good & bad in all sports and it’s pointless to compare the worst of one with the best of another. People were spitting blood in the comments section that day! My comment was quite moderate I thought.

    After a few beers and amicable chat, my rugby mates turned on me, brought up the online comments I had made, which were months ago now, saying they’d never read such biased rubbish and that I was totally anti-rugby. I pointed out that the previous hour had been spent talking about their trip to the HK 7s, which contained a fair few misogynistic hard-drinking frat boys anecdotes. I also pointed out to one of them that after I texted him about Celtic beating Barcelona he replied “**** your roundball sh1te” and that it was he who was biased. He also told my wife one time that if he had kids he wouldn’t let them play football. His own wife asked how I could show my face in Dublin after my Irish Times comments. I kid you not.

    The other mate said he’d be cheering Croatia against us in the Euros because he had a holiday home there! We had a blazing row – well, I got shouted down, I tried to reply in a measured manner. I got both barrels about rugby’s gay refs, no racism blah blah blah, I replied that rugby doesn’t rescue kids from gun & knife crime around the world so it’s a more complicated debate than meets the eye, but no, I was shouted down like some blasphemer by two crazed fundamentalists.

    The day after I apologised for my role in the row (even though I felt blameless) and gave a £50 online donation to a rugby spinal injury charity but my mate didn’t reply and didn’t speak to me for 6 months. I can trace my loss of connection with the rugby team to that night. Ever since – in fact, no, before – my rugby sanctimony radar has been turned up to highly sensitive.

    The list is long, and that’s why this thread has over 80 pages. My recollection is that the early pages contained lots of pro-rugby / anti-football media bias examples. But you only have to walk around parts of SE Dublin to pick up on the knackerball / wendyball stuff.
    Did anyone think yer mans wife was a scunthorpe fan when reading this? Nothing worse than a woman who has adopted her husbands thinking and gone further with it.

    I hope you didnt reply when he text 6 months later Certainly doesnt seem like someone worth associating with.

    I wish I had been there that night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I met two NZ tourists, husband and wife in their 70s, in our hotel in Bordeaux during the Euros. I was explaining the format to the husband and he generally didn’t know very much about football. His wife knew a bit more and said her daughter’s kids and most of the kids of their age are now playing more football than rugby because of the fear of head injuries.

    It also winds me up when people bang on about how huge rugby is in Wales. Even Newport & Wrexham get broadly comparable crowds to the Pro14 teams, and the big two get massively more, week in, week out. There was a radio documentary "In Wales The Ball Is Round" exploring the perception of rugby being the Welsh national game on BBC4 during the Euros. The narrator was saying never once in his days in school was the Monday morning chat about rugby, it was always about MOTD. There are rugby dominated areas, but these are small towns in the sticks for the most part. North Wales is totally football (southern Liverpool basically).

    I think I've made both of these points before on this thread
    I Think its a similar thing to Ireland national team and football. When it comes to "Wales" it is about the rugby. At a national level I think this point sticks though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    I hope you didnt reply when he text 6 months later Certainly doesnt seem like someone worth associating with.
    I think you've met him! We had lunch together in Canary Wharf one time.

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    Oh that w@nker!

    Only joking, I remember the lunch but I can't remember that guy, I clearly removed him from memory to do with the "worth associating with " bit. I only remember the other fella who admitted less interest in football but wasn't dismissive of it so I'm guessing its not him. Was he at that pub near Birkbeck?
    I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
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    I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
    Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away

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