Waiting Listers Rejection Letter

**harps1954** · 30/10/2009, 9:21 AM

Originally Posted by Bluetonic

I can only imagine the uproar (in the press) from the Rugby fraternity when they move back to Lansdowne.

The Rugby crowd have already sold ALL their seats for the new Lansdowne. Their 'vantage' club is already over subscribed.

**eaststand85** · 30/10/2009, 9:23 AM

Think the idea of every fan haviong their own number makes much more sense than the current situation where some indvividuals get a lot of tickets under the one booking and can then distribute as they see fit (even to the extent that someone on this forum said recently there were BB tickets for the play offs available on eBay).

**Bluetonic** · 30/10/2009, 9:45 AM

Originally Posted by eaststand85

Think the idea of every fan haviong their own number makes much more sense than the current situation where some indvividuals get a lot of tickets under the one booking and can then distribute as they see fit (even to the extent that someone on this forum said recently there were BB tickets for the play offs available on eBay).

I've said it before and I'll say it again, foot.ie and other 'fan centered' forums have been facilitating the easy transfer of tickets for years from block bookers to others ensuring the block booker is not out of pocket and they keep their allocation.s

**Dotsy** · 30/10/2009, 9:46 AM

Gutted to hear this. I am 353 on the WL and thought there was a good chance of getting on the BB scheme.

**DeNiro** · 30/10/2009, 9:51 AM

Guys,

Where are ye getting your waiting list number? I've been on that years and haven't a clue where I am on it.

Also, imagine if we don't get to the World Cup and we have a home friendly. If I'm not one of the lucky 49 (very specific number I must add) then I wouldn't be too inclined to throw my money where there is no real long-term reward for it.

**shakermaker1982** · 30/10/2009, 9:51 AM

you would think that there would have been more dropping out because of the economic climate.

Oh well I'm grateful I've got to see more home games over the last two/three years. I'll just have to start adding my name to the ticket waiting list on this site for the next campaign.

**blobbyblob** · 30/10/2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Bluetonic

I've said it before and I'll say it again, foot.ie and other 'fan centered' forums have been facilitating the easy transfer of tickets for years from block bookers to others ensuring the block booker is not out of pocket and they keep their allocation.s

Very good point BT. The churn of people going on and off of the BB list was quiet high up to about 5 years ago. Now its seems to have slowed to a trickle and messageboards would be the likely contributor.

One other point to consider is that in moving to croke park a lot of BBs would have increased the number of tickets theyve been taking per game because of the increased capacity and availability. The FAI figures may be based on the current BBs allocation in CP.

**jbyrne** · 30/10/2009, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by blobbyblob

One other point to consider is that in moving to croke park a lot of BBs would have increased the number of tickets theyve been taking per game because of the increased capacity and availability. The FAI figures may be based on the current BBs allocation in CP.

no, BBs were given the opportunity to increase their allocation but it was on a clear understanding that it would go back to Lansdowne levels upon our return there.

i think the FAI may be playing a bit of a game here. they badly need to shift their vantage club tickets and they know that at least some of those who cant get a block booking may take up some of those premium seats. i dont believe we have more than 50,000 fans that are really that bothered so hopefully most will be sorted by the time

**DeNiro** · 30/10/2009, 10:49 AM

Good point Jbyrne, but it's a dangerous game to play in the current economic climate, which looks like to deteriorate further after Christmas. The vantage club was a bad, Celtic tiger-driven idea, they might as well hold their hands up now and say it. But, I can't see them exporting those seats to waiting listers.

**elroy** · 30/10/2009, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Bluetonic

No difference than anything in any walk of life, airlines seats, hotel bookings, houses, etc..,

I just hope the people in the FAI who make these decisions have a (and no offense) better business mind than yourself.

I never said they wont sell them to BB's but it certainly wont be on the same terms as the other BBs tickets i.e. should they realise they will have 5k unsold vantage level tickets per game, im sure they will offer a "special package" to BBs. The rates wont be as high as the vantage club but they will be def be more expenisve than your standard BB.

In other words I agree with what gspain has suggested......

Originally Posted by gspain

However as has been pointed out there are still thousands of unsold vantage club seats. These won't be given as block bookings.

If the Vantage Club sells out then that's it.

However if it doesn't sellout (likely imo) then the tickets will be sold on a match by match basis. You would have to assume that the waiting list would be offered these or more likely the seats of sponsors and council members temporarily moved to the Vantage club.

**elroy** · 30/10/2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by DeNiro

Good point Jbyrne, but it's a dangerous game to play in the current economic climate, which looks like to deteriorate further after Christmas. The vantage club was a bad, Celtic tiger-driven idea, they might as well hold their hands up now and say it. But, I can't see them exporting those seats to waiting listers.

In fairness the prices of those tickets made sure your average fan never had any realistic prospect of purchasing. Even if you paid a sizeable portion over the odds for every match ticket, you still would not incur the total price of the vantage club ticket.

Then the fai came out with this "special" scheme for fans of irish football which was a joke in fairness. The same overall package but just allowed you to pay monthly.

From a corporate perspective, the rugby is generally more appealing plus all the games are at the wkd, which is again more attractive for entertaining clients etc. The new LR is def too small from the IRFUs point of view.

**Polster** · 30/10/2009, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by blobbyblob

Dont think theres much point in complaining tbh. Think about it. The north bucket is reduced to 2500 from stand to stand. Id imagine that all the old North Bucket BBs will be moved to the new south bucket along with the existing South bucket BB ticket holders and the new north along with some of the east or west stand will house away fans.

The FAI will be more interested in flogging their vantage seats than increasing their BB allocation. The best that you can hope for is that sales for the Vantage club stay low and they pull some of that allocation and allocate it to BBs

A bit off topic, but I really hope they don't give the N Bucket to away fans. We should have both ends for atmosphere and stick the away fans up in a corner like we use to do.

**jok1** · 30/10/2009, 12:21 PM

I see in the LR thread, someone form the LR Redevelopement company, saying they have not decided if they are going to put seats into the restricted view areas, surely the FAI could insist on this and offer these seats to the Waiting Listers.

**gspain** · 30/10/2009, 12:32 PM

The waiting list were always ahead of the extra tickets given to bbers in Croke Park.

All bbers are gone back to old Lansdowne levels.

I'd recommend staying on the waiting list as you'll most likely be offered tickets going forward unless the Vantage club sells well.

I don't think there has been a significant number of people taken off the WL since the China friendly in 2005.

**paul_oshea** · 30/10/2009, 12:44 PM

I got the PFO letter as well, thing is im around 1200 too, and i dont actually know anyone below that number

**shakermaker1982** · 30/10/2009, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I got the PFO letter as well, thing is im around 1200 too, and i dont actually know anyone below that number

I bet I am!!!

**jok1** · 30/10/2009, 12:58 PM

1886 out of over 6,000 according to the ticket office a few weeks back, one thing if the whole thing is a closed shop, how do the fai get young people to start going to games?