Jamie O'Hara

**Deckydee** · 08/12/2009, 6:37 AM

Just an update:

http://www.independent.ie/business/t...y-1966618.html

Both O’Hara and Wilson have earned rave reviews from Portsmouth fans, despite the dire circumstances surrounding Pompey’s season, and it is likely that both men will be included in Trapattoni’s next squad.

“I don't know what's going on at the moment because nobody has said anything to me,” said O’Hara, who was top of Terry Venables’ list of potential recruits when he was tipped as the next Irish manager.

http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysing...ws.asp?n=37713

**Wolfie** · 08/12/2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Deckydee

Just an update:

http://www.independent.ie/business/t...y-1966618.html

Both O’Hara and Wilson have earned rave reviews from Portsmouth fans, despite the dire circumstances surrounding Pompey’s season, and it is likely that both men will be included in Trapattoni’s next squad.

“I don't know what's going on at the moment because nobody has said anything to me,” said O’Hara, who was top of Terry Venables’ list of potential recruits when he was tipped as the next Irish manager.

http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysing...ws.asp?n=37713

Not a good start there.

Its up to O'Hara to approach the FAI about his availability not the other way around. Waiting around on the off chance you'll be asked doesn't exactly suggest a burning desire to be involved.

**Predator** · 08/12/2009, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Wolfie

Not a good start there.

Its up to O'Hara to approach the FAI about his availability not the other way around. Waiting around on the off chance you'll be asked doesn't exactly suggest a burning desire to be involved.

I know what you mean about showing your desire to play, but I don't think that it's the player's job to approach any respective association about playing. Football associations have people there to do a job and that includes finding and approaching the best players who are available and eligible.

**Wolfie** · 08/12/2009, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Predator

I know what you mean about showing your desire to play, but I don't think that it's the player's job to approach any respective association about playing. Football associations have people there to do a job and that includes finding and approaching the best players who are available and eligible.

Understood - but there's ways and means of conveying your eligibility in an unofficial capacity rather than stating to the media that noone has effectively made him an offer akin to a club move.

I'm not overly precious about eligibility - but some are - and not too much ammunition is ever needed to rub the players nose in it.

I just think players that are genuinely interested in playing and have an affinity with playing for us need to box clever in relation to how they declare.

**bwagner** · 08/12/2009, 1:12 PM

What about Darren Ambrose?

**paul_oshea** · 08/12/2009, 1:17 PM

From ambrosie cream?!

**Deckydee** · 09/12/2009, 5:37 PM

Originally Posted by bwagner

What about Darren Ambrose?

Full list as far as I know; oh and by the way if I am wrong, no need for the all CAPS when you are letting me know

Mark Noble (West Ham)
Kyle Naughton (Tottenham)
Anton Ferdinand (Sunderland)
Kevin Nolan (Newcastle)
Jamie O'Hara (Portsmouth)
Gary McSheffrey (Birmingham)
Matt Kilgallon (Sheff United)
Matt Connolly (QPR)
Hogan Ephraim (QPR)
Adam Hammill (Barnsley)
Andy Lonergan (Preston)
Kevin McCann (Hibernian)
Zander Diamond (Aberdeen)
Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace)
Adam Hammill (Barnsley)
Phil Bardsley (Sunderland)

**Murfinator** · 09/12/2009, 6:02 PM

Mark Noble is the only one of them I'd accept as being good enough to be anywhere near our first team.

**irishfan86** · 09/12/2009, 9:29 PM

Originally Posted by Murfinator

Mark Noble is the only one of them I'd accept as being good enough to be anywhere near our first team.

Kyle Naughton is regarded as one of the best young fullbacks in England. One day he will probably be good enough.

Phil Bardsley is a very competent fullback who would be good enough from a talent perspective to play for us. No clue on "how Irish" he is though...

**Acornvilla** · 09/12/2009, 9:36 PM

Originally Posted by Deckydee

Full list as far as I know; oh and by the way if I am wrong, no need for the all CAPS when you are letting me know

Mark Noble (West Ham)
Kyle Naughton (Tottenham)
Anton Ferdinand (Sunderland)
Kevin Nolan (Newcastle)
Jamie O'Hara (Portsmouth)
Gary McSheffrey (Birmingham)
Matt Kilgallon (Sheff United)
Matt Connolly (QPR)
Hogan Ephraim (QPR)
Adam Hammill (Barnsley)
Andy Lonergan (Preston)
Kevin McCann (Hibernian)
Zander Diamond (Aberdeen)
Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace)
Adam Hammill (Barnsley)
Phil Bardsley (Sunderland)

i rate them all higher than paul mcshane,noel hunt and shane long

**rambler14** · 09/12/2009, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Deckydee

Full list as far as I know; oh and by the way if I am wrong, no need for the all CAPS when you are letting me know

Mark Noble (West Ham)
Kyle Naughton (Tottenham)
Anton Ferdinand (Sunderland)
Kevin Nolan (Newcastle)
Jamie O'Hara (Portsmouth)
Gary McSheffrey (Birmingham)
Matt Kilgallon (Sheff United)
Zander Diamond (Aberdeen)
Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace)
Phil Bardsley (Sunderland)

I reckon the above would be well able at International level whether they want to play for us is another thing.

**Alf Honn** · 09/12/2009, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Deckydee

Full list as far as I know; oh and by the way if I am wrong, no need for the all CAPS when you are letting me know

Mark Noble (West Ham)
Kyle Naughton (Tottenham)
Anton Ferdinand (Sunderland)
Kevin Nolan (Newcastle)
Jamie O'Hara (Portsmouth)
Gary McSheffrey (Birmingham)
Matt Kilgallon (Sheff United)
Matt Connolly (QPR)
Hogan Ephraim (QPR)
Adam Hammill (Barnsley)
Andy Lonergan (Preston)
Kevin McCann (Hibernian)
Zander Diamond (Aberdeen)
Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace)
Adam Hammill (Barnsley)
Phil Bardsley (Sunderland)

Add to the list whizzkid Johnjo Shelvey, already approached by Brady according to below

From Herald,
Friday October 09 2009

HIGHLY-RATED Charlton midfielder Jonjo Shelvey has snubbed an approach
from Ireland and committed himself to England, even though the player
claims he had been promised a full international cap under Giovanni
Trapattoni and a possible fast-track ticket to the World Cup finals.

Shelvey (17) is rated as one of the best young midfielders in England,
having made his debut for Chartlon last year at the age of 16. He also
made progress at international level, captaining the England U16s, but
the player also qualified for Ireland through a grandparent and was
the subject of an approach from the FAI, believed to have been from
Liam Brady. But in a blow to Irish hopes, the teenager says he's
sticking with England. "I had the chance to play for the Ireland first
team but I want to play for England," he said today.

**livehead1** · 10/12/2009, 1:07 AM

Originally Posted by Alf Honn

Add to the list whizzkid Johnjo Shelvey, already approached by Brady according to below

From Herald,
Friday October 09 2009

HIGHLY-RATED Charlton midfielder Jonjo Shelvey has snubbed an approach
from Ireland and committed himself to England, even though the player
claims he had been promised a full international cap under Giovanni
Trapattoni and a possible fast-track ticket to the World Cup finals.

Shelvey (17) is rated as one of the best young midfielders in England,
having made his debut for Chartlon last year at the age of 16. He also
made progress at international level, captaining the England U16s, but
the player also qualified for Ireland through a grandparent and was
the subject of an approach from the FAI, believed to have been from
Liam Brady. But in a blow to Irish hopes, the teenager says he's
sticking with England. "I had the chance to play for the Ireland first
team but I want to play for England," he said today.

Sorry mate, that may well be a valid quote from the Herald but it is absolute tripe and hasn't happened. I won't tell you my source but those who know me on here will know I've yet to be proven wrong

**Deckydee** · 10/12/2009, 7:46 AM

Originally Posted by livehead1

Sorry mate, that may well be a valid quote from the Herald but it is absolute tripe and hasn't happened. I won't tell you my source but those who know me on here will know I've yet to be proven wrong

So...................

Does this mean he might play for us?

**dr_peepee** · 10/12/2009, 7:48 AM

Originally Posted by livehead1

Sorry mate, that may well be a valid quote from the Herald but it is absolute tripe and hasn't happened. I won't tell you my source but those who know me on here will know I've yet to be proven wrong

What hasn't happened? The approach from Brady or the rejection from the youngfella??

BTW... Was I right with Saul Deeney on that other thread??

**Deckydee** · 10/12/2009, 7:49 AM

Originally Posted by livehead1

Sorry mate, that may well be a valid quote from the Herald but it is absolute tripe and hasn't happened. I won't tell you my source but those who know me on here will know I've yet to be proven wrong

Hi,

This is what I found regarding this player:

http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/tn...Ireland%20call

**Nagger** · 10/12/2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by irishfan86

Kyle Naughton is regarded as one of the best young fullbacks in England. One day he will probably be good enough.

Phil Bardsley is a very competent fullback who would be good enough from a talent perspective to play for us. No clue on "how Irish" he is though...

Bardsley has an Irish mother.

**livehead1** · 10/12/2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by dr_peepee

What hasn't happened? The approach from Brady or the rejection from the youngfella??

BTW... Was I right with Saul Deeney on that other thread??

Sorry, I meant to say he wasn't offered a full international cap. I mean even if you look at it logically, we've had McCarthy who was pulling up trees at Hamilton and linked with big clubs all the time and the temptation was resisted to give him a full cap!

Yeh, you were right on the other bit!

**gustavo** · 10/12/2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Acornvilla

i rate them all higher than paul mcshane,noel hunt and shane long

Who are all Irish

**Kingdom** · 10/12/2009, 11:36 AM

This doesn't sit well with me I have to be honest. I was too young when the last big recruitment drive under Charlton happened so the likes of Townsend, Aldo etc signing up didn't have any impact on me, and I suppose that "Irish" question doesn't matter as much when you're a child. The balance to that was Aldo, Andy Townsend and the like probably weren't hanging on for full English honours.
People know that I appreciate the uniqueness of the Irish diaspora, and fully appreciate the contribution of 2g's and 3g's both on the terrace and on the pitch, but to be chasing Nolan, who's pretty much given us the two fingers over the past how many years doesn't sit well with me.