White space on left hand side of page

**Dunny** · 12/10/2009, 9:47 PM

I agree it would be better on the right.

**dahamsta** · 12/10/2009, 11:09 PM

Moving it to the right-side to make it less obtrusive is kinda counter-productive lads. The ads aren't there for decoration like. If it was all about aesthetics, they wouldn't be there at all.

**Acornvilla** · 12/10/2009, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

Moving it to the right-side to make it less obtrusive is kinda counter-productive lads. The ads aren't there for decoration like. If it was all about aesthetics, they wouldn't be there at all.

were not saying that they will be out of the way on the right. they would just better over there i think? butting an add just belov the top post in a thread wouldnt work would it?

**dahamsta** · 12/10/2009, 11:37 PM

Be honest with you I don't know why it would look better on the right. I put it on the left because that's how people read, left to right.

Midpage ads tend to perform badly on Foot.ie.

**dahamsta** · 13/10/2009, 6:11 PM

I'd actually forgotten about this until some tosser tried to spam my site today -- this is what Google would like me to do to Foot.ie:

http://verbo.se/google-adsense-optimisation-muppetry/
http://verbo.se/wordpress/wp-content...creenshot1.jpg

Needless to say, I told them where to cram it.

**First** · 13/10/2009, 8:44 PM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

Be honest with you I don't know why it would look better on the right. I put it on the left because that's how people read, left to right.

Midpage ads tend to perform badly on Foot.ie.

For €13 I don't have any issues with adds for the next 6 months

. I also get a lovely club member notice below my avatar which can be anything I want it to be , within reason. Now I am off to the private members club for some champagne.

Good value I think. Hint!

**Colbert Report** · 13/10/2009, 10:01 PM

Hook me up with a club membership. I have no problem paying extra to get rid of these ads on the left hand side. They're driving me crazy and will surely put most people off from joining the site should they stumble upon it. Dahamsta, please PM me with details about how I can purchase a club membership and I'll fire the payment off to you early next week once I'm back online, thanks.

**thischarmingman** · 13/10/2009, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Hook me up with a club membership. I have no problem paying extra to get rid of these ads on the left hand side. They're driving me crazy and will surely put most people off from joining the site should they stumble upon it. Dahamsta, please PM me with details about how I can purchase a club membership and I'll fire the payment off to you early next week once I'm back online, thanks.

http://foot.ie/club/

**dfx-** · 14/10/2009, 11:29 PM

firefox ad-block = white space = no ads

**Dunny** · 14/10/2009, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by dfx-

firefox ad-block = white space = no ads

= Dahamsta going mad.

**dahamsta** · 15/10/2009, 12:05 AM

Can't do anything about it, but I will say that if everyone ran AdBlock, Foot.ie wouldn't be here.

**rambler14** · 15/10/2009, 6:03 PM

The new layout is crap!

**dahamsta** · 15/10/2009, 6:10 PM

I'm not going to respond to criticism like that here, if it's not constructive it's of no use to me.

I'd add that vB4 is coming out in 1-2 months and it'll all change again then anyway. However the skyscraper ad is likely to remain either way, as the site simply isn't paying for itself any more. It either has to run with ads or not at all, I'm not running a charity here.

adam

**John83** · 15/10/2009, 6:22 PM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

I'm not going to respond to criticism like that here, if it's not constructive it's of no use to me.

I'd add that vB4 is coming out in 1-2 months and it'll all change again then anyway. However the skyscraper ad is likely to remain either way, as the site simply isn't paying for itself any more. It either has to run with ads or not at all, I'm not running a charity here.

adam

As a member, I've not been seeing this skyscraper ad or whitespace since shortly after it went in. I do think the layout is unappealing (though there's always a reaction like that to any change to the familiar).

I wonder: how many members would you need at any given time to make the site pay for itself, and so consider making the ads less conspicuous for non-members? How many have you now?

**dahamsta** · 15/10/2009, 8:35 PM

I haven't done the maths John83, Club membership was always intended as a booster so I haven't even considered it. Give the takeup, it's not really an option anyway.

We'll see what vB4 looks like, and how Google performs in the interim. TBH I'd prefer to drop the Google ads altogether and run with private ads like the FAI shop one. They have the double-whammy of being more relevant for users, and more profitable for Foot.ie. I wasn't really geared up for it in the past, but setting up for Carrolls has been an education for me.

adam

**tricky_colour** · 15/10/2009, 8:37 PM

It looks better if you navigate to another site - lol.

**Dunny** · 15/10/2009, 8:38 PM

Sorry for being stupid in this department, but if I click on an add on foot.ie does the site get money or what?

**John83** · 15/10/2009, 8:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dunny

Sorry for being stupid in this department, but if I click on an add on foot.ie does the site get money or what?

Yes. It's small - a few cent for the google ads*, but it adds up. Google monitor for suspicious activity though, so don't go clicking one a day or something, but if you see something that might interest you...

*Dahamsta has indicated that it may be more substantial for others.

**dahamsta** · 15/10/2009, 8:51 PM

Our in-house ad pricing is here. AdSense revenues are way, way below this, and in fact their figures are way, way under what my ad-serving system are saying. There's something seriously wrong there.