Can't find the full game but, here's some highlights in the meantime.Originally Posted by the doc
Just got back, amazing!
Anyone know where you can get a recording of the game? I seem to remember someone putting up a link to enable a recording of the Bulgaria game away as I think RTE don't allow you to download it from England.
Can't find the full game but, here's some highlights in the meantime.
Did you ever notice that in every painting of Adam & Eve, they have belly buttons. Think about that...take as long as you want.
Just heard exactly what they said.
In between all the rubbish "shameful", "real Irish football people will be crying" and all that patronising ****** they're right in pointing out that the play lacks cohesion and retention.
But we are hard to play against when we don't have the ball. Italy game wasn't a great example as I think their ambitions were limited to doing just enough on the night.
We are very reliant on set pieces:
Georgia away - 2 goals from open play (one a keeper error)
Monty away - didn't score
Cyprus home - open play (Duff cross to Keane)
Georgia home - 2 set pieces
Bulgaria home - set piece
Italy away - open play, long ball from Given
Bulgaria away - set piece
Cyprus away - set piece & open play (Duff to Keane)
Italy home - 2 set pieces
So I think that's 12 goals, 7 from set-pieces.
Very simply what Dunphy fails to address is that we are obviously much better without the ball now - would we be as good without the ball with Reid in the team? Perfectly reasonablre question to ask but he avoids addressing it.
With Andy Reid we may pass it better and look better but would the open gate that our midfield used to be be evident again?
I think the educated consensus is that the structure has made us competitive again and we are good enough to nick goals in most games, even if they are from set pieces (not to be knocked - Mourinho and Martin O'Neill's Celtic were also disciplined teams with set piece reliance).
Calling anyone in this camp a "post-Charlton bandwagoner" is an insult. Calling for Carsley is just dumb. As Neil said Mark Lawrenson was spot on in today's Irish Times - it ain't pretty but it's working.
People can say we've been lucky in this campaign but we've only had Duff for what - 3 games, 4?? Steven Reid for 2, Stephen Finnan for 1 or 2...
Last edited by Stuttgart88; 12/10/2009 at 3:19 PM.
while all this complaining about being over-reliant on set pieces is going on, I actually thought it was one of the areas Trapattoni has improved on massively. Despite the likes of Dunne and O'Shea to aim at. we haven't threatened from set pieces in some time.
Anyone know when S Reid and Finnan are likely to be back?
Didn't trap say in an interview quite some time ago now, that he said he would try and improve our set piece play and emphasised hte importance of good set piece play. At the time i took that to mean he basically thought we werent good enough to score from open play and the way he saw the team functioning to compensate not scoring from open play was to specialise in set pieces. Its something that is clearly evident, as could be seen with lawrence and whelan on the free kick. I watched that a few times and he almost hit it on the half volley, whether or not that is how he wanted it strcuk to him i dont know, i could only think and still do that it was a bad ball from lawrence, all the more a great strike from whelan!!
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
finnan played the full game in portsmouth's win at wolves. did he pick up another knowck since?
I think everyone if possible should watch the game again, particuarly the first half which we dominated. The ball was in the Italian half for most of the first half. They had only two genuine chances, a long range volley and the corner which led to the goal. Apart from that, they were pinned back as Ireland played attacking football.
It was the same in Bari, after the goal the Italians tried to shut up shop and Ireland dominated and were all over them.
I just don't understand how anyone after watching Saturday's match can claim it was a bad Irish performance when clearly on second or third watching it wasn't. The Italians hardly got any time on the ball,in the first half except for the goal. They were restricted to long range efforts such as Pirlo's freekick.
The great thing about this Irish team under Trap is it's gaining confidence with every match. The team's confidence was shattered during the previous two campaigns, and we were beginning to fear teams like Cyprus.
Now we are getting to the stage where we fear no-one. That's important for our flair players, like Duff, Hunt, McGeady, etc, who will feel confident getting at defenders.
Dunphy has an axe to grind, quelle surprise. They only thing which was a shambles about Saturday night was his usualy rambling bulls*it. It became laughable at one stage. Particularly when a woman texted in to say Trap wasn't taking his job seriously and was treating it as a part time job.
And Dunphy agreeing, showing he would agree with anything which shows Trap in a bad light. It's just utter tripe. Trap is one of the top managers in European club history. He is one of an exclusive club of players who have won the European cup as a manager and a player. He has won 6 Scuddetto, most at a time when Italian soccer was the top league in the world. He beat the all conquering Liverpool team of the 1980's in the European cup final.
It's laughable when you have clowns like Dunphy trying to make out Trap is not up to the job or not doing it right. Laughable, bizarre and stupid.
Last edited by Emmet7; 12/10/2009 at 3:56 PM.
if dunphy didnt come out with his usual go at the manager(trap,mccarthy,kerr,jack) what other use would he be on the panel. cause he clearly cant analyse a game.
Tony O'Donoghue now reckons that Shay wanted to go up for that last set piece and Trap or Tardelli told him no way. If true then Shay was really off his rocker on Saturday
On George
Too much inner turmoil to really notice what George was saying after Ledger's goal but he sailed close to the wind in all the excitement, who could blame him this time.
Geysir was this on the radio news today?
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
I just hear it on rte around 5pm.
But don't depend on my hearing, my brains are still mush.
The camera close up of givens conceded goals were strange, he didnt look too despondent
Last edited by paul_oshea; 12/10/2009 at 4:42 PM.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
I think Shay may have been disappointed that he did not keep out Camronaises(?) header.
I not saying he should have kept it out (it was travelling) but Shay may have thought he might have done.
Ya I was at the game and I seen Given running outside hes box roaring at the bench asking to go up. When I seen him at the half way line my heart nearly stopped. At that stage the 4th official was dragging Trappatoni off the pitch as he was shouting at Given to get back.
Also, did anyone find Trappatoni's reaction towards Alan Kelly after Italy's second goal a bit strange?
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Trap aged 5 years in those 5 minutes.
I really enjoyed the game, but was left deflated after the result. Both the Italian goals were soft. Camoranesi was the smallest man on the pitch and he scored a header and the second goal was just shocking.
I don't feel as bad about the playoffs, but I can't help but think about how interesting a week it would have been had we beaten the Italians, especially with Cyprus hammering Bulgaria.
There is a torrrent here
http://www.footytorrents.co.uk/detai...eb42d3333a90d4
You will have to register.
(shame about the last few minutes, both goals were a bit soft, if our defenders got closer to people it could have been 2:0, easier said than done, obviously).
Last edited by tricky_colour; 12/10/2009 at 5:59 PM.
Thanks tried using it but it won't download!
Are you using a torrent program such as utorrent or bitcomet?
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