How depressing is the seeding news?

**MeathDrog** · 01/10/2009, 5:49 PM

Will they have seedings of the seedings? Or will they just leave the seedings as they are after the playoff from the seeded group?

Ah, too many seeds.

**irishbaz** · 01/10/2009, 6:50 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Irishbaz I think the point he is making is that it is FIFA not UEFA that look after the World Cup qualifying.

yeah got that and for some reason it put one of my responses in the grey box and one outside

**philliyk** · 01/10/2009, 7:17 PM

Originally Posted by Greenbod

Agree entirely..............seems like we're the only ones trying to fix the draw to suit ourselves, ie....we want a weak team to play against!

Comes a time, eventually, when all is said and done, at the end of the day, in the final analysis, after long consideration, that we might just have to play against a good team and win!

For me it isnt so much trying to get the draw fixed for us(although wouldn't that be great!!) - wouldn't it be great to come home after watching Eire stuffing which ever team is unfortnate to have to play us at Croker to earn our ticket to S.Africa

& next morning when the hangover is starting to kick in get your recording on of say Germany v France battling it out for a place in the finals

**Greenbod** · 01/10/2009, 9:32 PM

Originally Posted by philliyk

For me it isnt so much trying to get the draw fixed for us(although wouldn't that be great!!) - wouldn't it be great to come home after watching Eire stuffing which ever team is unfortnate to have to play us at Croker to earn our ticket to S.Africa

& next morning when the hangover is starting to kick in get your recording on of say Germany v France battling it out for a place in the finals

I'd prefer to come home after watching us knock Germany out of the world cup........I wouldn't be watching any recordings the next morning.

**Acornvilla** · 01/10/2009, 10:35 PM

id say no matter who we get well draw both games and hope for the best with away goals

**MeathDrog** · 01/10/2009, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Acornvilla

id say no matter who we get well draw both games and hope for the best with away goals

I'd hope for that like.

Although if it did happen, in the 89th minute FIFA would introduce a rule saying that away goals don't count in playoffs...

**irishultra** · 02/10/2009, 1:01 AM

Originally Posted by Brian Boru

FIFA is wrong. I wouldn't worry though. We still could top the group. Unlikely I agree but possible. Even if we finish second the seeding is irrelevent. Germany will top their group. They'd be the only one we wouldn't beat. So we won't have to worry about them. Croatia are sh**e. Russia and France are average. Portugal are average and wont even get second in their group anyhow. Croke park is very intimidating and I'd be confident of us beating any of the seeded teams. Bring on the Italians. C'mon you boys in green.

if france are average what does that make ireland?

i do hope we get france tho for a few reasons

1.i could see us getting a score draw in paris
2.close proximity
3.will be definetly allowed to go as its my lc year and im aiming for an a1 in french so it be a good opportunity to practice.

**mypost** · 02/10/2009, 1:27 AM

Originally Posted by theworm2345

They said a separate draw will be held to determine where and when the matches are played.

They really like to draw the thing out, don't they?

Just draw the teams in Pot 1 v the teams in Pot 2, and let us all just get on with it.

This is one of the reasons why I hate play-offs. I much prefer the group going onto November, and everything been decided at the end of the group phase.

I can't imagine how Norway are coping.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 02/10/2009, 2:33 AM

Originally Posted by MeathDrog

Ah, too many seeds.

Cue for a Nick Cave concert?

Even though I think he's a depressing fcuk, only Irish fans of a certain age & disposition will get this!

**SkStu** · 02/10/2009, 4:28 AM

Originally Posted by MeathDrog

FIFA/UEFA - Full of sh*t.

can we get a flag ready for the playoffs???

**thischarmingman** · 02/10/2009, 7:26 AM

Originally Posted by MeathDrog

I'd hope for that like.

Although if it did happen, in the 89th minute FIFA would introduce a rule saying that away goals don't count in playoffs...

See: Final, League Cup (2002)

**gspain** · 02/10/2009, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by thischarmingman

See: Final, League Cup (2002)

Away goals never counted in the 2002 League Cup final. some of your fans thought they did and indeed at one stage our players.

**Greenbod** · 02/10/2009, 8:28 AM

Originally Posted by MeathDrog

I'd hope for that like.

Although if it did happen, in the 89th minute FIFA would introduce a rule saying that away goals don't count in playoffs...

Why hope for a draw? Is a win too much to hope for?

**Junior** · 02/10/2009, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

, Italy havent been overwhelming and there would have been nothing any of the supposed fixers could have done about us winning. BUT we didnt so now we might have to beat a more polished soccer nation to get in.

A play off spot is no more guaranteed than not topping the group. We CAN still win it if results go our way and that is what we should be aiming for.

**swinfordfc** · 02/10/2009, 11:00 AM

At the moment - we are unoffically 29th placed in the rankings and not 38th placed ........ thats still leaves us the wrong side of the cut but a win against italy would seriously help us ....

**Crosby87** · 02/10/2009, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Junior

A play off spot is no more guaranteed than not topping the group. We CAN still win it if results go our way and that is what we should be aiming for.

Come on Italy havent lost yet and they are going to drop two in a row, including to Cyprus? Italy is going to lose to the Cypridiots in a game of that magnitude?
And even if they did you just know we would draw the Monty game anyway.

**Junior** · 02/10/2009, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

Come on Italy havent lost yet and they are going to drop two in a row, including to Cyprus? Italy is going to lose to the Cypridiots in a game of that magnitude?
And even if they did you just know we would draw the Monty game anyway.

By that token we could easily end up with 1 point from our 2 games and watch Bulgaria sail above us in to second.

**Noelys Guitar** · 02/10/2009, 12:55 PM

"Only one elderly owner. Great mileage. Never in a crash.......would you buy a second hand car from this fella?

**Drumcondra 69er** · 02/10/2009, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

Who would buy a second hand car from this chap?

He has a face you just want to punch doesn't he. I despise that man.

**ChrisRed** · 02/10/2009, 2:52 PM

Originally Posted by swinfordfc

At the moment - we are unoffically 29th placed in the rankings and not 38th placed ........ thats still leaves us the wrong side of the cut but a win against italy would seriously help us ....

The seedings are based on the fifa rankings as at the 16th October.
Unsure if that will take into consideration our results against Italy and Montenegro. Although the likes of Greece, Portugal, Germany, France, Croatia are all in the top 17 at present so not sure if it'll make any difference.