Quote"and if it continues, we mightn't be meeting again next season".
Ah, Jaysus, ye're not going into administration again, are ye?
Basically, that's it in a nutshell. There is no one team that is that great and everyone is capable of beating each other.Originally Posted by mypost
Life without Rovers, it makes no sense...it's a heartache...nothing but a fools game. S.R.F.C.
"and if it continues, we mightn't be meeting again next season".
Ah, Jaysus, ye're not going into administration again, are ye?
People on here calling for Cretaro to be dropped.
Yeah, the lad is one of the top scorers in the league, in a team second from bottom AND he scored again last night.
Lets drop him. Great plan.
i think the biggest difference between us and the likes of shams and bohs is the bench, the right full was gettin scorched and baker had no idea what his job was , o'neill seen it and brought on robinson and barrett, when you have players like those two to come on compared to rob turner you'll always have a chance to turn games round.
Like any other Bit O' Red supporter I was gutted with last night's result. I don't beleive in focusing all the attention on the referee when my team is beaten and I think the post above says it all really and I have to agree with the lad 100%.
We started well and truthfully we could have gone in three nil up. We didn't but we did go in leading one nil. First half over it was now down to the management teams of both sides to rally the troops. In my opinion this game was won in the dressing rooms at half time.
At the start of the second half O' Neill made two changes to his starting line up introducing Shane Robinson and Graham Barrett. The Bit O Red to me at this stage were prepared to drop off and let our Dublin cousins come at us. As of many times in the past this was proven to be a disaster of a tactic to adopt. We were playing to deep and into the hands of the opposition. The first half we had gone at them and ended the half one up, did we now believe we had the hard work done? Shams are second in the table at this on merit alone and a desion in our dressing room is taken to fall back and absorb the pressure? Good tactics yea right. Inevidably the pressure comes on, every time we win the ball we immediately give it back to the hooped ones. How long before a goal comes. Now we start to look at the referee to determine what kind of game he's having. Everyone of our mistakes mysteriousily becomes the man in black's mistake. Get on his back, the baldy ***** and things will improve. Meanwhile back on the pitch our team are still in the hole and Shams are playing like a team with loads of confidence. There's always going to be a winner in a game like this, one set of joyous supporters and one very frustrated bunch of home supporters.
Many things in last night's game annoyed me but I'll be honest the referee wasn't one of them. This was a game we most desperately needed something from. Shams started the game by giving us the respect our recent results deserved. We played well enough to go in three up at the break. One it seems was enough to give the management team the confidence to allow us to sit back and let the opposition do the running. Very, very bad decision, one I don't think we can lump on the shoulders of the referee. All night I don't beleive we won one second ball, correct me if I'm wrong. Shams players were more up for this game, they needed a win to go top of the league. We needed a win to give us some chance of survival in this division I suppose their will to win the league is far greater than our will to survive.
I witnessed my things during the game last night that leaves a bad taste in my mouth, the referee came no where near to being one the list. I think the Bit O' Red supporters on here should read the last paragraph in MyPost's thread again and think what he's implying. Then relive that second half performance from our team last night, excluding the referee, and decide is he right or wrong. Sometimes it's difficult to see the wood from the trees but they're there.
Fair point you cant blame the ref all the time but at the least he can do is try to ref it as best he can if he makes a mistake every now and again so be it it should even itself out but some of the decisions he gave last night were a joke, if you have ever been involved in junior football you would have to agree that the refs are a joke, players train twice a week and commit themselves to a game on a sunday morning with no monetary reward, a ref does no training durin the week turns up on a sunday morning gets well paid and wants no time wasting so he can ref another game in the afternoon, and thats at a local level so you can only imagine the attitude of refs at a national level, when was the last time you seen a ref have a decent game in the showgrounds?
Basically, any game we win, the ref is fine.
evryone saw how bad the referee was. im sure it'll be shown up on MNS
Yea, let's single out the referee here tonight just to prove he had a bad game.
Now let's turn our attention to the players. Oh we'll look at cretaro. In the first half he had a wonderful chance to put the home side ahead but due to an oversight on the lads behalf he didn't even hit the target. Can we get a shot of the positioning of the referee on that one. Is it possible his shadow fell into the sight of the lad and caused a distaraction. That's a possibility, can we have another look maybe from a different angle. Oh we had only one camera at the game. That's was an awful decision just to take one camera surely we knew there would be a need for more than one. Who made such a decision? the referee?
no id say it was MNS that made that decision....u obviously dont know much
Listen the ref changed the game by giving Shams a penalty that in my mind and most other people at the game was never a penalty, when Shams looked like they had just run or of ideas. Straight away the other side has all the momentum and our momentum is dead and in my view momentum changing moments in sport is what usually makes the difference and in football goals change games. He gave a corner that was never a corner and we were unlucky that we put it into our own net, i would not blame the player for that, flukes like that happen in football the whole time, that kinda stuff evens itself out over the season. Add to this the rediculous decisions he give Shams such as Conor O'Grady one, which was totally laughable. And then people say we have 20 minutes to win the game at the end, sure how the hell could we? When you have a clearly bias ref that stops us or lets fouls go on us or gives fouls on us against us, how demoralising is that for the players? How can you honestly expect the players to get anything constructive going on the pitch, they ain't machines, what went on Saturday night clearly rattled them. As for silly little comments that lets blame the ref for Raf missing a great chance, this happens in football, the best strikers in the world miss chances, they shouldn't but they do, that's football what should not be part of football is the decisions made by McKeown on Saturday night. I am still angry about being cheated out of 3 points, roll on Cork on Tuesday though.
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Because we scored after 69 minutes, it wasn't as if it was the 89th.
McKeon wouldn't be known as a Pro-us ref. Then again none of them are. They're chosen by the FAI, because they have no affiliation to the teams concerned.
If you think he's bad, you haven't seen Kelly, Hancock, or Buttimer. Compared to them, most refs are a breath of fresh air.
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I was standing behind the Railway End and the penalty; was a penalty (Keane with a stupid rash challenge), the corner that led to the own-goal; was a corner (peers done well to get a touch). However the fact is that neither the penalty or the corner should have been given as we should have had a free kick in the lead up for both. Say what you like about our performance but at the end of day the referee changed the game.
The most sprints Raf done all night came at the end of the game when he went to each of the Shams players to congratulate them. We have a decent first 11 but have no bench, Shams were able to bring on good experienced players that could change the game.
Shams only had about three or four chances all night and one of them was the penalty. For a team challenging for the title I couldn’t believe the amount of hoofing they were doing. I though Boco's chance was flying in, great shot and save.
Once again we deserved more and got less.
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Manager: Fergal, have you your boots with ya?
Fergal: Ya, I have them here.
Manager: Ah good stuff, well give them to this man so, he forgot his!
If it all evens out over the course of the season we're due a load of dodgy decisions in the next few weeks
A few things;
1. I thought the ref was ok in the first half but got too involved in the second and always seemd to give shams the benefit of the doubt with decisions.
2. I didnt understand cooks substitutions on the night.
3. When Rovers were on the break especially in the second half every time the ball could have been put wide either left of right the player in the middle with possession (mainly Raf - who for the record i think is a fantastic player) took a second and third touch and the initiative was lost - the wings were where we were getting the joy as they say!
4. In the second half we hoofed the ball down the middle too many times surrendering possession of the ball and wasting valuable time - out wide especially on the right with boco and turner we were causing most havoc.
5. Our crossing was very poor all night - mainly being overhit or coming down on the 18 yard box line - too far to do any thing any good!
Overall, we had far more chances than shams but didnt score them and we could not adapt our tactics in the battle as required - and obviously the ref was far too much an influence in the game!!!
WE NEED POINTS and will have to start getting some soon!
Aside from the big decisions that the Ref may or may not have got right, its the 50/50 decisions throughout the game and leading up to bigger incidents that he got wrong. A lot of guys on here have been going to the games for years and can anyone honestly come away from a game against Shams down through the years and say the referee 'favoured us' in a particular game
Referees in general do lean towards the 'Bigger' clubs, its like they feel obliged to give them the benefit of the doubt. Its been that way for years, unfortunately i cant see it changing.
I've just had a quick look through the high-lights. There was a suspicion of handball alright leading up to the penalty. Was it a foul? Can't tell. Was it a corner? Can't tell. Lots of bodies in the area to be conclusive.
[QUOTE=Well Red;1239503]I could see this coming down the tracks and to be honest I am sick of the officials and what they are doing in the league. It cost me a lot of money and time to get to Sligo tonight and I have to consider do I want to put myself through anymore of the rubbish these officials are coming up with and I am seriously thinking of packing in going to matches. Your heart would go out to the Sligo team tonight, they played very well, yes they missed some chances and would have beaten Shams tonight if it was not for the stupid ...t in the middle. Watching Shams tonight I think Bohs will walk it as they are way ahead of Shams. I really do not know what can be done but the referee tonight should be dropped to a lower league due to amount of bad decisions he came up with. These 3 lost points could be critical for us and we are now in a dog fight. We could win the cup and go down like some years ago.[/QUOTE]
What season was that Well red???????????
I think you need to read your Sligo Rovers history book again.
When we won the cup in '83 and '94 we did not get relegated.
In 1983 there was only one division in the country and in
'94 we were promoted to the Premier Division under Wilie McStay.
Despite everything that happened on Saturday night in relation to the ref and the result it was still a great night at the Showgrounds with the shams supporters really adding to the occasion not to mention adding to our coffers.
I think we played well and I don't agree we gave up once we went behind.
Yet again I think Boco was outstanding (and was devastated when the final whistle went)
and yet I again I was puzzled but Raf's performance.
had to wait til MNS to watch goal again as i was behind the other goals..penalty was bulls*it...and Michael O'Neill is pri*k..really hope Bohs win the title now after that interview.
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