Win World Cup or Win All Ireland

[kingdom hoop]

I think you are letting your support for Kerry cloud your judgment.

It's my support for justice that supersedes everything.

No, I don't think I'm being unduly sensitive, I just don't feel the abuse was warranted. No doubt he meant to go in hard with all the pent-up energy from ten years in Oz. But I find it a bit of a stretch to suggest he deliberately went for yer man's head. Especially when the margins are so small between catching him with a great rousing shoulder and in the head. I'd settle for "reckless" - not thug.

[mypost]

Another mad thread. Asking football fans on a football site, if they would prefer a boghockey/ball superbowl win, than win the World Cup.

Obviously, it's the World Cup for me, bogball/boghockey is parochial euphoria in a medieval game. Bit like comparing Dallas to Ros na Run.

As for the egg-chasers, it's a sport played in 14 countries, and is passionate here in South-East Dublin and Limerick. Winning the World Cup in that is insignificant on a global scale.

I'd take more pride in us winning a gold medal in the Olympics than GAA or Rugger.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Welcome to the 21st century pops.

Get over yourself and stop dragging up that crap from the past. The notion of you being either soccer or GAA hasn't been relevant in decades, time to move on.

Welcome your landgrabbing, bogballer buddies down in Castleisland, Co. Kerry to the 21st century and give them that peace, love and harmony schpiel and see how far it gets you. "Crap from the past" my @rse.

[kingdom hoop]

Welcome your landgrabbing, bogballer buddies down in Castleisland, Co. Kerry to the 21st century and give them that peace, love and harmony schpiel and see how far it gets you. "Crap from the past" my @rse.

Extremely minor point, though arguably a reason to get postcodes, the town you're thinking off is Castlemaine Lionel (at the armpit of Dingle Peninsula, mid Kerry).

The good people of Castleisland are of course already comfortably ensconced in the free-love wonders of the 21st Century: the town supports reasonably strong teams in both football codes and rugby, with, to the best of knowledge, little friction. Indeed star Kerry centre-back Mike McCarthy who took a few years secondment from inter-county play, returning this year, plays for the Castleisland soccer team. While Mick Galwey from out the road in Currow played rugby for Ireland and gaelic for Kerry. Now, Castlemaine on the other hand....

[Murfinator]

Whatever, it's futile to argue with you guys.

By all means keep shaking your fist angrily at the invisible GAA enemy, it's worked ever so well up until now.

I do think soccer fans in this country are very old fashioned however. The fans need to modern up at some point and stop coming up with lines I'd have expected to see in the 1980's.

And I am a fan of the international team directed at whoever said I wasn't, why on earth would you claim I'm not and why else would I be here? Unless you're another paranoid sort and believe I was sent by the GAA to sabotage foreign games forums.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Extremely minor point, though arguably a reason to get postcodes, the town you're thinking off is Castlemaine Lionel (at the armpit of Dingle Peninsula, mid Kerry).

The good people of Castleisland are of course already comfortably ensconced in the free-love wonders of the 21st Century: the town supports reasonably strong teams in both football codes and rugby, with, to the best of knowledge, little friction. Indeed star Kerry centre-back Mike McCarthy who took a few years secondment from inter-county play, returning this year, plays for the Castleisland soccer team. While Mick Galwey from out the road in Currow played rugby for Ireland and gaelic for Kerry. Now, Castlemaine on the other hand....

You're right of course. The town in Kerry who's football club are being screwed by the local cultural purification comet-ee is 40 odd miles from where i'd placed it.

[kingdom hoop]

Yep, reset the missile coordinates. Should still be within range anyhow.

[Crosby87]

1. Ireland win the WC
2. Ireland win a gold medal at the winter olympics.
3. Whiskey cures AIDS.

[EastTerracer]

And I am a fan of the international team directed at whoever said I wasn't, why on earth would you claim I'm not and why else would I be here? Unless you're another paranoid sort and believe I was sent by the GAA to sabotage foreign games forums.

You wouldn't know it judging from most of your posts on this site.

BTW the post you picked out as childish is statistically correct when it comes to rugby. See www.puttingrugbyfirst.com

"According to the International Rugby Board (IRB), there are more than four million registered players worldwide, but more than half are from England and over threequarters (3.3 million) come from the eight Foundation Unions overall. Meanwhile, there are less than a quarter of a million players in the ten most populous nations of the world (China, India, USA, Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Russia, Nigeria, and Japan).

Television audience data for the 2007 World Cup final, between South Africa and England, shows that 97% of the 33 million total viewers came from the Foundation Unions – with just half a million viewers of the final spread amongst all the remaining nations where it was shown live. There are 115 members of the IRB – but rugby is evidently not particularly popular in most of them."

No contest for me - qualifying for and attending 3 world cups were by far the most exciting things that have happened in my life (sad but true). No other Irish sporting achievement, no matter how much I have enjoyed them, even comes remotely close.

Third time this year we've had the same argument so I'm sitting out the rest of this one. Why anyone would try a WU like this on a football site is beyond me.

[Bluebeard]

1. Ireland win the WC
2. Ireland win a gold medal at the winter olympics.
3. Whiskey cures AIDS.

Most ridiculous post yet.

Everyone knows Whiskey cures AIDS should be first.

[SkStu]

1) Bohs qualify for Champions League
2) Ireland wins FIFA World Cup
3) Ireland wins Rugby World Cup

GAA doesnt even register.

[CarrickFan]

Whatever, it's futile to argue with you guys.

By all means keep shaking your fist angrily at the invisible GAA enemy, it's worked ever so well up until now.

I do think soccer fans in this country are very old fashioned however. The fans need to modern up at some point and stop coming up with lines I'd have expected to see in the 1980's.

And I am a fan of the international team directed at whoever said I wasn't, why on earth would you claim I'm not and why else would I be here? Unless you're another paranoid sort and believe I was sent by the GAA to sabotage foreign games forums.

AHH so you admit you just come on this site to ARGUE and annoy??

Well i would'nt consider you much of a fan of the International team if,as you have stated,you would rather ur county win the respective GAA titles and the Rugby team to win ahead of us Winning the world cup?..hardly the thoughts of a true fan of the team..and also what about ur problems with the "Irishness" of the team?...and the lack of "community"??
as always i look foward to ur response.

oh and to answer your last question I HAVE NO IDEA why you come on here.

[Drumcondra 69er]

My thoughts exactly the only thing that would top Ireland winning the real world cup would be GUFC winning the League or FAI Cup.

Maybe it's because Bohs have relatively recently won 2 doubles and a league that I'd sooner see Ireland win the World Cup although to be honest even pre 2001 I think that Ireland doing well meant more to me. A number of my mates in teh Bohs crowd would have a different take on it though.

It's my support for justice that supersedes everything.

No, I don't think I'm being unduly sensitive, I just don't feel the abuse was warranted. No doubt he meant to go in hard with all the pent-up energy from ten years in Oz. But I find it a bit of a stretch to suggest he deliberately went for yer man's head. Especially when the margins are so small between catching him with a great rousing shoulder and in the head. I'd settle for "reckless" - not thug.

Let's be honest though, had it been Ciaran Whealan yourself and the media would be singing a different tune about it though.

I'm delighted for Kenelley by the way but he deserves a ban for that, no question.

[Murfinator]

Whelan is a dirty player, I think Kennealy is just a guy who got wound up too much and did something stupid that he was lucky to get away with.

Kerry are usually a clean team, it'd be very rare you'd see something like that from a Kerry player, you'd expect it from a team like Dublin.

[ifk101]

Whelan is a dirty player, I think Kennealy is just a guy who got wound up too much and did something stupid that he was lucky to get away with.

Kerry are usually a clean team, it'd be very rare you'd see something like that from a Kerry player, you'd expect it from a team like Dublin.

Define "very rare"?

[Drumcondra 69er]

Whelan is a dirty player, I think Kennealy is just a guy who got wound up too much and did something stupid that he was lucky to get away with.

Kerry are usually a clean team, it'd be very rare you'd see something like that from a Kerry player, you'd expect it from a team like Dublin.

Ha ha ha! Are you for real? Obviously a WUM and this really is the wrong forum but what the hell, I'll bite.

Paul Galvin is one of the dirtiest players playing today, he puts Whelan in the shade when it comes to cynicism. The gooch is a great player but he's also a windy little fcuker who goes to ground at the slightest touch and stays there until he recieves treatment. He's up there with Ronaldo. And he's not the only one, Kerry players dive constantly and stay down for treatment to break up the play. They're masters at gamesmanship and it's embarrassing to watch at times. I've seem games where they've had nearly as many trainers, water carriers (hello Kieran Donaghy!) and miscelaneous backroom staff on the field as they've had players! Clean team?!

[republicofwhite]

Title of this thread, and to even think about posing such a question is the most ludicrous, nonsensical notion ever.

[DeLorean]

Ireland winning the World Cup but I'm from Cork and although we're high profile losers at the minute I'd still expect I'll get to witness them winning a few All Ireland's in my lifetime. If I was from Roscommon, Leitrim, Carlow, etc. I'd imagine my decision would be a lot less clear cut. I take great pride from success of my county and country in most sports really. Cork winning a football All Ireland would definitely mean more to me than Ireland just qualifying for the WC. It'd be fantastic to win the Rugby WC also if only to emulate England's achievement. As for Kennelly, I don't think he's a dirty player so I would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, if it was Galvin or Darragh O'Se I would have been more convinced of their intent.

[kingdomkerry]

Ha ha ha! Are you for real? Obviously a WUM and this really is the wrong forum but what the hell, I'll bite.

Paul Galvin is one of the dirtiest players playing today, he puts Whelan in the shade when it comes to cynicism. The gooch is a great player but he's also a windy little fcuker who goes to ground at the slightest touch and stays there until he recieves treatment. He's up there with Ronaldo. And he's not the only one, Kerry players dive constantly and stay down for treatment to break up the play. They're masters at gamesmanship and it's embarrassing to watch at times. I've seem games where they've had nearly as many trainers, water carriers (hello Kieran Donaghy!) and miscelaneous backroom staff on the field as they've had players! Clean team?!

Are you having a laugh????? No even going to defend that bullsh1te. Its obviously your way of dealing with kerrys 17 point victory over dublin this year. The team are awesome. Some players play on the edge thats as far as it goes and every team needs those players.

P.S What did you think of the episode when donaghy came on the field during the kerry dublin match to give some of the players water (dublin and kerry) and your corner back Bastick (spelling?) stamped on donaghys broken foot totally unprovoked. It was the single most dispicable thing ive ever seen in any sport and he should of been banned for life!

[paul_oshea]

Not even the lucid brilliance brought by the sheer ecstasy of winning yesterday can make sense of this topic. The fortunes of Kerry GAA and Ireland influence my mood greatly, but I still struggle to see how you can compare a World Cup to an All-Ireland. I suppose if Ireland had won 36 World Cups and I supported Leitrim it might make more sense.

Yesterday was amazing (and as L37Ultra alludes to there's something to be said for a more local side winning something) but come on, Ireland, little old Ireland, winning the World Cup. Nothing could ever come close - Alexander Shulgin would struggle to concoct anything as powerfully joyous. Alas, it is as fanciful as it would be fantastic. I'll take Option C - real delight over dream delight.


Anyway An Ceannaire, what were the reasons given in your little survey? Was it more of a most-local-is-best thing; or that they were more into one team over the other; or that they preferred the sports, etc; or was there any kind of thought process at all - maybe their answers came simply cos it's All-Ireland season at the moment?

KH you are from kerry, so alluding to being from Leitrim etc is a good analogy. There is always a great chance of your county winning it.

Maybe the original poster needs to include All Ireland Senior Club Championship too Personally my club winning it wouldn't mean the same as Ireland winning the world cup, but thats for as many reasons as anything else.

Its funny though on here, people would say im a GAA man, but the people I know who love hte GAA would call me a soccer man I dont care either way, but Ireland winning a soccer world cup, even for this fact alone, the whole country would be in it together, you would be sharing it with 4.6 million people, as opposed to circa 100k, surely that in itself should answer the question, unless of course you are a more selfish person

Angel delight for me everytime.