League Cup shenanigans

**BohDiddley** · 19/09/2009, 10:26 AM

Nutsy on the Dundalk game, but also (from 3 mins) on FAI messing re the League Cup Final venue.

Bohs agreed to play it in Waterford on the understanding that there would be some accommodation with respect to fixture congestion.

Couldn't be blamed if he fields the A Team as a result.

**Dodge** · 19/09/2009, 10:56 AM

Not like Fenlon to moan is it?

**Duffman** · 19/09/2009, 10:58 AM

Can't believe that I am supporting him but he does have a point. If they were given assurances that they wouldn't have to travel to Derry and now they are being forced to then its out of order.

**A N Mouse** · 19/09/2009, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Nutsy on the Dundalk game, but also (from 3 mins) on FAI messing re the League Cup Final venue.

Bohs agreed to play it in Waterford on the understanding that there would be some accommodation with respect to fixture congestion.

Couldn't be blamed if he fields the A Team as a result.

That's right get your excuses in early.

Why should bohs be treated an differently than anyone else? The only reason this is an issue is because of who they play in the two fixtures after, and what a defeat in either/both would mean.

**BohDiddley** · 19/09/2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by A N Mouse

That's right get your excuses in early.

Why should bohs be treated an differently than anyone else? The only reason this is an issue is because of who they play in the two fixtures after, and what a defeat in either/both would mean.

The only reason it's an issue is that an undertaking was given and promptly reneged on.

Bohs have to play three games in a week. In the circumstances, would you play your full squad in Waterford?

**A N Mouse** · 19/09/2009, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

The only reason it's an issue is that an undertaking was given and promptly reneged on.

Bohs have to play three games in a week. In the circumstances, would you play your full squad in Waterford?

http://extratime.ie/fixtures/detail/102/111/11225/1/

**BohDiddley** · 19/09/2009, 11:31 AM

Did you have an arrangement with FAI to re-schedule games?

**A N Mouse** · 19/09/2009, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Did you have an arrangement with FAI to re-schedule games?

Games surrounding league cup final 2008 & 2009

Derry 2008

H Drogheda Utd Eircom League Premier Division 2008 Fri 19 Sep 08
A St Patricks Athletic Setanta Sports Cup 2008 Tue 23 Sep 08
A Wexford Youths Eircom League Cup 2008 Sat 27 Sep 08
H Cork City Ford FAI Cup 2008 Tue 30 Sep 08
H Sligo Rovers Eircom League Premier Division 2008 Fri 3 Oct 08
H Linfield Setanta Sports Cup 2008 Mon 6 Oct 08
A Bray Wanderers Eircom League Premier Division 2008 Fri 10 Oct 08
H Cork City Setanta Sports Cup 2008 Tue 14 Oct 08
A Bohemians Eircom League Premier Division 2008 Fri 17 Oct 08

Bohemian 2009

H Dundalk League of Ireland Premier Division Fri 18 Sep 09
A Waterford United EA Sports Cup Sat. 26 Sep 09
A Derry City League of Ireland Premier Division Tue 29 Sep 09
A Shamrock Rovers League of Ireland Premier Division Fri 02 Oct 09
H Coleraine Setanta Sports Cup Tue 06 Oct 09
H Drogheda United League of Ireland Premier Division Fri 09 Oct 09
A Cork City League of Ireland Premier Division Fri 16 Oct 09

**sonofstan** · 19/09/2009, 11:49 AM

So? Derry had two home games immediately after.... we have to go to Derry on Tues. big difference.

**A N Mouse** · 19/09/2009, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by sonofstan

So? Derry had two home games immediately after.... we have to go to Derry on Tues. big difference.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...t=html&oi=nojs

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?output...Get+Directions

Google maps makes it about half an hour

**Derry** · 19/09/2009, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

The only reason it's an issue is that an undertaking was given and promptly reneged on.

Bohs have to play three games in a week. In the circumstances, would you play your full squad in Waterford?

Why should they have been given insurances. It's only a mid week game, which ALL teams have to cope with. The tie with Derry City will have to be played mid week, so what's the big deal. I've never came a cross a club that is filled so much with their own importance. Waterford is just 2 hours travel, Derry has to travel that for their Derby game. Fenlon stop your whinging, and now that the treble has ridden into the sunset, get on with your tin pot cup.

His comment in calling Rovers, 'that mob' shows how small a man he really US.

**refjohn** · 19/09/2009, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by sonofstan

So? Derry had two home games immediately after.... we have to go to Derry on Tues. big difference.

Derry had to come home from Wexford. How much further is Waterford to Derry compare to Wexford to Derry? After all that is the comparison? And Derry dont have the luxury during season of playing 6 away games within the same city

**BohDiddley** · 19/09/2009, 1:01 PM

Originally Posted by Derry

Why should they have been given insurances

The issue here is not why assurances were given, but that they were not honoured. I'm sure the why and wherefores were discussed before the arrangement to play the final away.

**Derry** · 19/09/2009, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

The issue here is not why assurances were given, but that they were not honoured. I'm sure the why and wherefores were discussed before the arrangement to play the final away.

So they are saying that they wouldn't have played the final in Waterford unless they got an assurance that they wouldn't have to play Derry in mid week. Why the f*** should they have been given an assurance for that. They had some brass neck asking for it in the 1st place. And so far we only have wee Fenlon's word on that. Like has been pointed out before, Bohs time travelling is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy smaller than the likes of Derry, as every away game can be anything from 2 hours, up till 7 hours. Yet Boh's longest journey is only 3 hours, In 2 sets of games in the league at present, Derry travel approx 31 hours while Bohs travel approx 13. Now they are complaining about having to travel 5 hours out of a total of 3 games. My bleeding heart goes out to them.

**A N Mouse** · 19/09/2009, 1:43 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

The issue here is not why assurances were given, but that they were not honoured. I'm sure the why and wherefores were discussed before the arrangement to play the final away.

Arrr, shiver me timbers.

Seriously, what is the issue here?

a) fixture congestion
b) travelling
c) assurances from the FAI

a - that's never happened before

b - bit rich coming from a Dublin club
c - I'd be fairly supprised if 'assurances' were given. More likely is bohs asked and were told we'll see what happens with the cup replays. If 'assurances' were given then this raises the question in my op of why bohs should be treated differently than anyone else?

Originally Posted by Pat Fenlon

The powers that be asked us to wait and after getting knocked out of the cup find there's no date available.

The fact of the matter is there are five teams (most of them playing 2 games a week for most of this month) in the setanta cup - and if more than one of them were still in the FAI cup it'd be worse. Games are being rearranged left right and centre and the only alternative would be to fit the fixture into the last two weeks of the season - which would only serve to further feck things up if in the event of sligo needing another cup replay.

File this one under conspiracy theories.

**SkStu** · 19/09/2009, 2:31 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

The issue here is not why assurances were given, but that they were not honoured. I'm sure the why and wherefores were discussed before the arrangement to play the final away.

wasting your time trying to make a point regarding Bohs here BD. Its just big bad bohs being unreasonable again.