Quotewhy not? ask for where all this was documented. league over. we finished 3rd from bottom. why are you making me play a play off. no one told use of a legue format change etc
Have the clubs involved in playoff the balls to refuse to play. It would be a very difficult stance to make.Originally Posted by walshek
why not? ask for where all this was documented. league over. we finished 3rd from bottom. why are you making me play a play off. no one told use of a legue format change etc
Whatever happened to the clubs association. This is the worst case scenario for a lot of clubs, I wouldnt mind the league totally misled the clubs in the last couple of weeks including Tom Kelly in the Connaught Telegraph who said the super league was been reduced to 8 teams, he failed to mention that the rest of them were being reduced also. Ballyglass must be shellshocked.
Has anyone a rough draft done up of how these famous leagues will look next season?
One of the Ballyglass lads told me that Bangor started telling them five miutes before kick off that if they lost they would be relegated. Ballyglass had no idea before this and how would they. Strange how bangor knew the full story
On the Mid West web site it says that the format of the leagues for next season will be anounced after the league meeting on Tuesday night
2011 superleague....
ballina town
westport
erris
manulla
castlebar celtic
swinford
claremorris
ballinrobe
2011 premier division......
bangor or clewbay united
fahy
snugboro
ballyheane
s&f
westport b
killala
connrangers
2011 division one
charlestown
westport c
bangor or clewbay united
ballyglass
crossmolina
erris b
kilmore
partry
thats how the leagues look to be set up now but im sure the mayo league hot shots will mess it up a little bit more
mayo have league have passed our pitch as good enough AGAIN this year.... you are starting to sond like a broken record over this.get over it
Will the clubs finally say enough is enough tonight or will they bend over and take it as usual.I hope some of them speak up and make their voices heard.
Think its to late for clubs to say anything at this stage, so there all goin to have to get on with it now.
Accordin to the con telegraph there'll be 6 leagues with 8 teams per league.
As it said in the paper ballyglass were the big losers, if they won they would be in the super league but they lost so they are goin to be in the new division 1 not even stayin in the premier league.
but all will be cleared up after the ML meeting 2nite..
Sorry I just cant agree with you on this one, I think the clubs should not just get on with it, they should ask some serious questions from their league which is elected by them to run THEIR league. All season clubs have been asking for clarification of the relegation issues but to no avail, but low and behold just hours after the final round of games is played it has been decided.How is this possible, were they waiting for the games to finish to see how the leagues were going to be restructured!!!, or what clubs it would effect. Ballglass and Clew Bay were oblivious to the conceqences of the results of their games until it was to late, while Bangor were only to aware of what was happening, how is this fair?.
So no the clubs should not just get on with it.
as soon as the new chairman(PMcH) was appointed there was always going to trouble.
the only time he thinks of the clubs is when hes given them fine after fine. the mayo league are just a money making machine and i wouldnt be surprised if alot of clubs just stopped altogether.
Is it that no one from Ballyglass or Clew Bay clubs is on this forum as this situation has been well documented for the last couple of months. Have ye heard the latest bixare twist to this craxy season they have a play-off match between the 2 teams which finished 8 and 9 in Division 1 Knock/Kiltimagh V Castlebar Celtic B fixed for Sunday in Swinford, what happens to the loosers of this game what division will they be in next season?. If any new clubs want to enter the Mayo league next season or if a club wanted to enter a secound team or third team next season what happen then. Would both clubs have grounds to appeal this play-off to the Conaught FA and if not sucessfull to the FAI if not only on moral grounds that a club was not made aware of thesituation till its too late.This situation would strike me a situation that the late Charles Haughy described in the early 80's as
G-Grotescee
U-Unbelievable
B-Bizzare
U-Unprecidented
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I would advise anyone hoping to reverse the 8 team division to have an iron clad argument as trying to argue with the Mayo League at the moment is like talking to the wall.
The 8 Team Division for 2011 was confirmed at the AGM back on the 4th of March.
Without being at the AGM, its impossible to know if it was all above board.John Durkan confirmed that all divisions will be reduced to eight teams for the 2011 season.
Who proposed the changes and seconded it?
Was it voted and passed by a two thirds majority?
Was everyone who was entitled to attend the AGM (two club members) notified of the proposed changes 1 calendar month before the AGM? Were the proposed changes submitted to the League before the 31st of January?
My main gripe with all of this was the manner in which it's being enforced, but unfortunately I don't think the League were under any obligation on this matter.
Before a ball was kicked this season, the League should of sent out the procedures that would be used to create 8 team divisions. I know there was some ambiguity about it because of the possibility of a B team coming 1st or 2nd in the Premier but that could of been outlined. Its shows a complete lack of respect for the Clubs in each division, the cornerstones of the league, that nobody knew even before the last league of the season, where they stood regarding next season.
Why is everybody referring to the league as if they are some higher being?. They are the elected representives of the clubs to run the league on behalf of them, somewhere along the line this has been lost. All clubs should have known exactly where they stood at the start of the season, this is the least they deserved. I know Ballyglass and Clew Bay were aware of the situation but they were like the rest of us lulled into thinking in recent weeks it was only going to be the superleague going to 8 teams this year. Clubs seriously need to look at the league rule book which has progressively given more power to the league over the years through sneeky little rule changes voted on at the end of meetings and the clubs own neglect in not realising what they were voting for in many cases.
Look guys the clubs showed their total lack of interest when they didnt support the people trying to form a commitee to get answers from the ML. Now im not personaly involved with any club at the present time but im disgusted at the sheer contempt with which the league has treated the clubs this year and like wise the fashion in which the clubs have stood up for themselves. Most were just content on letting someone else deal with it and had no desire to find out what the League had in mind for 2011. I comend the Don and his comrades for trying to set up a stand alone group seeking answers and making proposals but alas, as I posted here earlier in the season not enough people with balls to back them. Now the crying and whinging will start in earnest.......... bolting the door when the horse is gone im afraid and I would be shocked beyond belief if the ML do a U turn at this stage. The whole thing is a mess, its like changing all 4 tyres when you get a puncture in 1. If they wanted to change things then start with the SL next season and progress from there if it proved sucessful the following seasons.
Is there an delegates meeting tonight and if so what time?
jeremy d announced live on mid west radio that clew bay were safe after our win against ballinrobe. then at 9pm sunday nite we get a email saying that a playoff has been fixed for sunday. we all knew that there was going to be confusion on the last day but it was made worse by jeremy announcing that. im not blaming jeremy but he should have got his facts right before he said anything.
just from our own point of view, how does it make sense for the likes of charlestown and westport c skip in essence a full division and play against teams who were premier divison last season? surely thats putting them two teams at a disadvantage in that division straight and away and im sure everyone at moy villa, urlaur, mulranny, feel that they would be well able to give these teams a fair crack instead. wont be too happy with the situation and if this playoff between celtic b and k+k is true too then its a complete joke. frankly having a division whereby 2 teams got promoted and 8 teams get relegated just doesnt make sense. (although the 2 teams who did get promoted did deserve it)
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Kinda reinforces the idea that it was a last minute discission based on results. How many clubs did join the clubs association.
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