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    As has been said poor perfromance but we'll take it three points is three points, after downing a few pints afterwards I watched Brazil v Argentina made up for the lack of entertainment in our game.
    Hoping for a draw Wed night which would mean were two points behind Italy with two home games to come.
    82,000 in croker on the 10th of Oct it will be like a cup final bring it on, could this be another Holland 2001!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thommo View Post
    could this be another Holland 2001!
    It'd be better as we wouldn't still have a playoff ahead of us, well Montenegro would become the playoff except with a 2nd chance if we feck up

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Whelan and Andrews virtually nullified Cyprus as attacking threat.
    Unfortunately they also pretty much nullified us as an attacking threat too.

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    A bit off topic here, but did anybody hear that swine Ray D'arcy this morning?

    He was talking about the hurling yesterday and the soccer on Sat. He was on about what a brilliant game the hurling was (which it was by the way) and went on to compare it to the soccer on Sat night and said something along the lines of "and these guys get paid....". What a moron. Such a statement shows his complete lack of knowledge of sport. Did he expect Ireland to go and get a 5-1 win while playing like Brazil? I bet he'll be on the bandwagon next year when we qualify and if gets the chance to interview Robbie Keane etc he'll be full of charm...

    That said, I thought the performance was poor but three points is three points and I'll not be complaining if we qualify. Think the game proved that Stephen Hunt should only be used from the bench though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Den Perry View Post
    I bet he'll be on the bandwagon next year when we qualify and if gets the chance to interview Robbie Keane etc he'll be full of charm...
    nail on the head with that statement. you get a lot of "soccer" bashers out there who will jump on the ole ole bandwagon if we qualify for the wc. this morning hurling is the bandwagon but was it the case when the tipp v limerick semi was over after about 5 mins? wouldnt take what ray darcy says too serious to be honest.... id say the next piece on his show was a campaign to get the slow set back into night clubs or some similar bog basic discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thommo View Post
    As has been said poor perfromance but we'll take it three points is three points, after downing a few pints afterwards I watched Brazil v Argentina made up for the lack of entertainment in our game.
    Hoping for a draw Wed night which would mean were two points behind Italy with two home games to come.
    82,000 in croker on the 10th of Oct it will be like a cup final bring it on, could this be another Holland 2001!
    Am I the only one hoping Bulgaria win ?

    As far as I'm concerned I'd rather know now if we are to qualify or not and 6 points from our 2 games with Italy losing to Bulgaria should confirm that.
    Play-offs are too unbearable and unpredictable.

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    I don't want a Bulgaria win but at the same time I think we should focus on ourselves and get as many pioints as we can.

    A draw is absolutely the best result as far as I'm concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    I'm not saying everything is rosey but it's an improvement beyond belief. It doesn't really matter how he compares to Kerr (who for the most part didn't do a particularly bad job anyway) as he had a lot bigger job to do.

    Very true, this time the last campaign we were out and out by a distance. Whereas now we have a realistic chance of first, everyone wouldve been happy with that. Id take results and average performances over the results in the Stan era anyday. As I read somewhere recently, you dont need a top quality team to do well in international football, if you have a well organised team you can go a good distance. And in fairness to trap, we have a team with organisation and purpose, may not be pretty but so far its working very nicely. Call it luck but in every game so far the team/structure/organisation has adapted to get the result.

    Quote Originally Posted by Den Perry View Post
    A bit off topic here, but did anybody hear that swine Ray D'arcy this morning?

    He was talking about the hurling yesterday and the soccer on Sat. He was on about what a brilliant game the hurling was (which it was by the way) and went on to compare it to the soccer on Sat night and said something along the lines of "and these guys get paid....". What a moron. Such a statement shows his complete lack of knowledge of sport. Did he expect Ireland to go and get a 5-1 win while playing like Brazil? I bet he'll be on the bandwagon next year when we qualify and if gets the chance to interview Robbie Keane etc he'll be full of charm...

    That said, I thought the performance was poor but three points is three points and I'll not be complaining if we qualify. Think the game proved that Stephen Hunt should only be used from the bench though...

    What do some people (and particulary gaa people) feel the need to put down one sport over another when one sport produces a good game on a particular wkd and the other may not?!? Dont get it!!
    Ray D'Arcy knows SFA about any sport so dont mind him. I was at the hurling yesterday and while it was a very good enjoyable game it was one of the few genuinely competitive hurling games this year. Nonetheless over two thirds of the scores were from placed balls.
    Lets all be honest the Ireland game was not very 'entertaining' on sat night to the outside viewer but i was like a nervous wrecked gripped to my seat. I was far more enthralled with sat night than sun but everyone to their own.

    The same Ray D'Arcy will be trying his best to put together another WC song if we qualify in a few months time........Irish people in general are easy to criticise and quick to jump on a bandwagon.

    [QUOTE=Scram;1227116]Am I the only one hoping Bulgaria win ?

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    Well you're in the minority. From our perspective we have nothing more to gain by Bulgaria winning as opposed to a draw.

    A draw or Bul win puts us needing to realistically win against Italy to top the group.

    A Bul win however brings them right back in the frame and increases the danger of them passing us should we slip up against Italy or Montenegro.

    Whereas a draw keeps them a safe 4 points away with two games to go.
    So in other words a draw please and thank you.
    Last edited by elroy; 07/09/2009 at 1:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    Finally, Robbie Keane. What a man. How our greatest ever striker can be so unrespected by his own fans amazes me. Great player, great attitude and time again he scores the big, big goals for us.
    You'd have to start him for his good fortune alone.
    Does very little over the whole of the game but gets the goals, you cannot complain about that.

    Doyler put in another phenomenal shift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razor View Post
    You'd have to start him for his good fortune alone.
    Does very little over the whole of the game but gets the goals, you cannot complain about that.

    Doyler put in another phenomenal shift.
    You don't score 40 international goals through good fortune alone. The guy is a class, class act.

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    It's not the type of goal I'd have backed Robbie to score. He never convinces me with his head. Credit to him, he kept his eye on the ball when many would have been distracted by the goalkeeper. I remember a similar-ish chance late in the game vs Czech Rep when he failed to anticipate Cech's error - at the back post that time. Good on him. I think that header would have beaten the keeper even if he'd stayed put.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    You don't score 40 international goals through good fortune alone. The guy is a class, class act.
    Of course not, theres penalties too
    Can't argue with those stats.
    I guess the main reason certain people dislike him is because he does very little throughout the course of a game. He doesn't tackle or put in the type of effort that Doyler does but then they're different players.
    As long as he's scoring then his detractors will be silenced and long may it continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Unfortunately they also pretty much nullified us as an attacking threat too.
    Whelan and Andrews?
    Not their job.
    Tactics dictated their role.

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    In fairness to both Doyle & Keane, being a forward in our team is a thankless task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor View Post
    I guess the main reason certain people dislike him is because he does very little throughout the course of a game. He doesn't tackle or put in the type of effort that Doyler does but then they're different players.
    Anyone who thinks Robbie doesn't put in the same type of effort as Kevin Doyle is not watching the games in the flesh. Try just watching Robbie in an Ireland game - he is constantly running off the ball trying to create space. In previous years he was also running all over the pitch to try and get the ball when there was no service coming up to him (although Trapp seems to have put a stop to that recently).

    He didn't have a great game on Saturday but the service to him was atrocious. He's not going to play like Doyle when long balls are bombarded up to him - he's the player running off the target man to try and pick up any knock-downs. When the ball doesn't get to him he doesn't get on TV so some people don't think he did anything. At times his first touch has let him down in critical situations (what striker's hasn't?) but equally there have been times when he has absolutely stunned me with the quality of his touch.

    For 11 years now I've seen Keane run his bolli* off for Ireland in nearly evey game and it sickens me when people start suggesting he doesn't try hard enough or doesn't put in enough effort. Best striker we've ever had - no argument.
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    how did whelans shot not go in, what a cracker. brilliant save in fairness. i think whelan did ok, i like him. put in a fair few tough tackles in the 2nd half. he has a lot more to offer than andrews IMO. more aggressive and better going forward(when he decides to).

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    For 11 years now I've seen Keane run his bolli* off for Ireland in nearly evey game and it sickens me when people start suggesting he doesn't try hard enough or doesn't put in enough effort. Best striker we've ever had - no argument.
    exactly it sickens me aswell, and those who say "who has he scored against" FFS. best striker we have ever had, by a million miles. will never be touched again. top quality player/captain/striker. i wouldnt swap him for any other player in the world. nobody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duggie View Post
    how did whelans shot not go in, what a cracker. brilliant save in fairness. i think whelan did ok, i like him. put in a fair few tough tackles in the 2nd half. he has a lot more to offer than andrews IMO. more aggressive and better going forward(when he decides to).
    thought he was better than Andrews, offered more going forward, won the ball back a few times, and was robbed for a cracking goal.
    Andrews shot the ball back into the penalty area for Doyle's goal, and had another shot from outside the area that hit the support for the net. He didn't do much in the second half, but that's not his remit for Ireland.

    Having said all that, to come from League Two to international level in under a year, and not look out of place is some achievement
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    ya but id go back to the whelan - reid combination when hes fit again. fingers crossed for italy.

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