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    These are the main reasons why Miller is not in the picture: S. Reid, J. McCarthy, K. Andrews, D. Gibson, G. Whelan, D. Meyler and possibly in the future A. Reid and S. Ireland - how many of these can he leapfrog?

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    well you can argue that s. ried has no future with the irish team due to his constant injuries.
    myler is a winger as is a. ried?

    S. Manchester may never play for us again

    hes pretty much the same quality as andrews and whelan

    and i hope to god mccarthy and gibson turn out to be better players

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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    These are the main reasons why Miller is not in the picture: S. Reid, J. McCarthy, K. Andrews, D. Gibson, G. Whelan, D. Meyler and possibly in the future A. Reid and S. Ireland - how many of these can he leapfrog?
    Well if you line them all up properly, probably all of them !

    Football wise if they are injury free probably none of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post

    hes pretty much the same quality as andrews and whelan
    No he isn't they are consistent, give you pretty much the same in every game.
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    they gave very little bar for the france games tbh and i like both of them but anyway andrews and millar will probably start vey few games for us in the future because of age and there are better players (hopefully) coming thru if any of the three have the biggest future its whelan..

    anyway they are very similar in quality millar being the most naturally allented and i'm sure if he was given the responsibility and a run in the team he would rise to the occasion.

    were never going to know anyway because he never got that chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    they gave very little bar for the france games tbh and i like both of them but anyway andrews and millar will probably start vey few games for us in the future because of age and there are better players (hopefully) coming thru if any of the three have the biggest future its whelan..

    anyway they are very similar in quality millar being the most naturally allented and i'm sure if he was given the responsibility and a run in the team he would rise to the occasion.

    were never going to know anyway because he never got that chance
    I can't understand why you think he has not been given a chance. At club level he has been given countless chances until Keane (his biggest fan) had enough of his poor attitude and listed him. At international level he has over 20 caps and was selected in successive squads despite not even having a club. For me that is plenty of chances.
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    ah i mean an extended run in a team hes always in and out i think we may agree to disagree mate and wait to see how he does in the CL or europea league next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    i think we may agree to disagree mate
    Ha Ha at last we agree on something mate!! Good on ya.
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    playing well so far.. stokes could have scored there a second a go.. decent stream here:http://www.p2p4u.net/watch/12432/1/w...hibernian.html

    zemamma looks like a hel of a player hibs could win this

    EDIT: rangers deserved the win in the end to decent footballing sides wasnt a bad game to watch millar did pretty well. stokes didnt do a whole lot messed up his only real chance
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    Scored the first tonight at Ibrox for Hibs
    I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?

    "No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior View Post
    Scored the first tonight at Ibrox for Hibs
    how did the crowd react to it?
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    Didnt hear Im afraid but as Rangers ended up losing 0-3, Im sure most of the vitriol was saved for their own players!!!

    It was an effort from outside the box but it seemed to take a deflection or spun off the turf awkwardly leaving McGregor flat footed. Nice to see it go in all the same!
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    I'd have him in the squad ahead of Harrying Green.

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    Borderline or Marginal as Stutts likes to say. The Non Harrying Miller over the Harrying Green....emmm
    I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?

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    In terms of harrying, Miller rates powder puff.

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    Miller's probably in the Andy Reid bracket of luxury players. He has incredible passing ability but he just doesn't have that defensive side to his game, so he'd only really fit in a three man midfield.

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    I'd differentiate on the luxury tag, between a player who adds luxury to a team and a luxury for a team to have such and such a player.

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    I'd define a luxury player as one who improves the offensive capabilities of a team, but needs extra defensive players around him to get the best out of him.

    Ever notice how it's usually midfielder players who are defined as a "luxury", very rarely defenders or strikers. Never goalkeepers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    I'd differentiate on the luxury tag, between a player who adds luxury to a team and a luxury for a team to have such and such a player.
    Two sides of the same coin, surely? Maybe I just hate people who can afford nice things, but I've always read a bit of negativity into the word "luxury."

    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    I'd define a luxury player as one who improves the offensive capabilities of a team, but needs extra defensive players around him to get the best out of him.

    Ever notice how it's usually midfielder players who are defined as a "luxury", very rarely defenders or strikers. Never goalkeepers.
    Not sure about that. A lot of full backs these days could be called luxury players - Glen Johnson springs to mind, and even Ian Harte back in the day. Any Arsenal defender in the last decade. Ronaldo would be the obvious striker but he's never really had a set position. I guess you generally don't see it in goalkeepers because reliability is so valued in that position, though you have your obvious Barthezes and whatnot.

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    We should differentiate between a luxury, a luxury footballer, harrying, a harrying luxury, and a harrying luxury footballer.

    A luxury is defined as "something inessential but conducive to pleasure and comfort".
    A luxury footballer is "a footballer inessential to the team but conducive to pleasure and comfort for the viewing public".
    Harrying is defined as "to disturb or distress by or as if by repeated attacks; harass"
    A harrying luxury is "To disturb or distress by or as if by repeated attacks; harass; something inessential but conducive to pleasure and comfort"
    A harrying luxury footballer is "To disturb or distress by or as if by repeated attacks; harass; a footballer inessential to the team but conducive to pleasure and comfort for the viewing public".

    Perhaps Miller falls under the "luxury footballer" definition.
    Harrying Green falls under the "harrying" definition because he isn't a luxury, he certainly isn't a footballer and his continued inclusion in the team is disturbing, distressing and harassing.

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