Coughlan told to pay up or face Cork player strike

**Ezeikial** · 03/09/2009, 1:57 PM

Originally Posted by micls

TNB probably doesn't even know, apart from the fact that he wont walk without a payout and no one will give him a cent

Presumably this includes FORAS. If Tom wants a payout to walk, and no will will oblige, whats your read on how the close season will play out (presuming everyone is still standing by then). Do you really believe that Uncle Tom will carry on next season?

**micls** · 03/09/2009, 2:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Presumably this includes FORAS.

I can't say for definite how members would vote, but I can't see there being any chance of a vote passing to give him money.

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

If Tom wants a payout to walk, and no will will oblige, whats your read on how the close season will play out (presuming everyone is still standing by then). Do you really believe that Uncle Tom will carry on next season?

I honestly have no idea. Couple of things that could happen

1) We dont even make it that far, company is wound up at some stage, players strike etc. We start in the A Championship
2) FAI dont give him a license, company is wound up, we apply for a license for next year.
3) He sells/walks away and someone takes on the debt
4) The hitman idea.....

I think if he's still there by the start of next season then we won't finish the season, I also think we'l sell little or no season tickets with him there and many people would boycott the start of next season.

The only reason people aren't boycotting now imo is the emotional blackmail that if they do our players won't get paid.

**pineapple stu** · 03/09/2009, 2:16 PM

Could you save time by applying for the A League now?

**Longfordian** · 03/09/2009, 2:20 PM

Originally Posted by micls

The only reason people aren't boycotting now imo is the emotional blackmail that if they do our players won't get paid.

Could ye not pay the money into that fund for the players managed by the PFAI though rather than entrusting Coughlan with it?. It'd be hard done I know but it'd send a loud and clear message .

**Ezeikial** · 03/09/2009, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by micls

1) We dont even make it that far, company is wound up at some stage, players strike etc. We start in the A Championship
2) FAI dont give him a license, company is wound up, we apply for a license for next year.

If Cork City qualified for Europe in this season, and either of the above happened, any views on whether the new entity would be able to take up that place?

**Schumi** · 03/09/2009, 2:38 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

If Cork City qualified for Europe in this season, and either of the above happened, any views on whether the new entity would be able to take up that place?

It'd be a new club so they'd have no claim on anything due to the old one.

**Hitman** · 03/09/2009, 4:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Have you considered just paying a hitman?

(Joking)

I think this one might be pro-bono.

**eelmonster** · 03/09/2009, 4:54 PM

The writing's on the wall (again) for Coughlan.

**micls** · 03/09/2009, 5:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

If Cork City qualified for Europe in this season, and either of the above happened, any views on whether the new entity would be able to take up that place?

Originally Posted by Schumi

It'd be a new club so they'd have no claim on anything due to the old one.

No it wouldn't , but it would be a new company and a completely new licensing application. The same thing happened in 1995 but at the time the licensing rules were different and a license could be passed to another company even after liquidation.

So it would be a cash of starting from the bottom up again I'd imagine.

**dcfcsteve** · 04/09/2009, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by eelmonster

The writing's on the wall (again) for Coughlan.

Hell - you can't even see the wall for all the writing !

(I have visions of Coughlan in the 'Life of Brian' bit in the morning after Brian had covered the city walls with 'Romans go home'.....).

**CuanaD** · 04/09/2009, 6:44 AM

Originally Posted by Hitman

I think this one might be pro-bono.

Meaning, pay for the Coughlan hit & get a Bono hit for free?
Nice

**Macy** · 04/09/2009, 7:30 AM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

Could ye not pay the money into that fund for the players managed by the PFAI though rather than entrusting Coughlan with it?. It'd be hard done I know but it'd send a loud and clear message .

My only hope with the hardship fund is that there is some agreement for those using the fund to repay it when they get the money due. I'm all for the players having support, but at the same time they'll feck off in the close season, and FORAS will still be left to pick up the pieces at some point in the future...

**micls** · 04/09/2009, 7:49 AM

Originally Posted by Macy

My only hope with the hardship fund is that there is some agreement for those using the fund to repay it when they get the money due. I'm all for the players having support, but at the same time they'll feck off in the close season, and FORAS will still be left to pick up the pieces at some point in the future...

The money in the hardship fund, is a bridging loan. There will be a contract signed, organised by the pfai, byt the player to repay the money when he gets paid.

**Dalymountrower** · 04/09/2009, 8:45 AM

Application by AFC City, Viagrasons FC (or the like) to the A league by Foras looks like the best option?
TC may be out of his depth but he is deluded and obstinate enough to collapse the existing club around him . In that (likely) event Foras could be invited to fill a vacancy in the First Division for next season and then onwards and upwards. I always reckoned Cork Greater urban area , Ballincollig to Middleton, Blarney to Carrigaline plus Cobh could support two Premier and one First Division Team.
Wasn`t there a year in the late 70`s early 80`s when there was no Cork Team at Senior National Level.? it would be a real blow for the league if that was to happen again.

**dcfcsteve** · 04/09/2009, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Wasn`t there a year in the late 70`s early 80`s when there was no Cork Team at Senior National Level.? it would be a real blow for the league if that was to happen again.

Cork United left the league in 1982 - Cork City joined in 1984.

Cork clubs have had more identity changes than Face from the A-Team, though they somehow let a few years slip as above.

**pineapple stu** · 04/09/2009, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Wasn`t there a year in the late 70`s early 80`s when there was no Cork Team at Senior National Level.?

82/83, 83/84 and 84/85.

I wonder how the MFA would view two Cork teams looking to use Turner's Cross though.

**dcfcsteve** · 04/09/2009, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

82/83, 83/84 and 84/85.

Cork City had entered the league for the 1984/85 season.

The post previous to yours wasn't a lie, you know.....

**longfordjames** · 09/09/2009, 7:12 PM

Can someone who knows please post up the attendane of tonights game v Celtic as I could not travel.

**Buile Shuibhne** · 09/09/2009, 8:32 PM

What happens if tonight's gate is not enough to repay the 200k to the mystery lender in London.

As guarantors will the FAI stump up anyway?

How would this impinge on licencing issues, as the FAI have said previously that they cannot get involved in bailing out clubs of financial difficulties?