The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players

**galwayjames** · 08/11/2009, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Remind me where Pat's finished in the league?

I'm referring to all clubs who've competed at the top of the league over recent years, not based on one season.

**galwayjames** · 08/11/2009, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

Correct.

You're right. I'm being deadly serious.

**CSFShels** · 08/11/2009, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by galwayjames

You're right. I'm being deadly serious.

Thats probably the worst part of it.

**awec** · 08/11/2009, 12:45 AM

In all seriousness though, as an outsider, it seems that every time we hear about the LOI is when we're hearing about how yet another club is in financial difficulty.

**galwayjames** · 08/11/2009, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

Thats probably the worst part of it.

There's no point in arguing about this, it'll just be deleted by dahamsta (and rightly so) but why you can't take me seriously I don't know

**CSFShels** · 08/11/2009, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by awec

In all seriousness though, as an outsider, it seems that every time we hear about the LOI is when we're hearing about how yet another club is in financial difficulty.

Isn't that the same with businesses in the south as a whole though? Not saying LOI clubs have been run prudently but still.

**awec** · 08/11/2009, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

Isn't that the same with businesses in the south as a whole though? Not saying LOI clubs have been run prudently but still.

Businesses? Probably, but businesses all over the world are suffering right now.

LOI football clubs just seem to be continually in financial problems.

**galwayjames** · 08/11/2009, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by awec

LOI football clubs just seem to be continually in financial problems.

LOI football clubs were in financial trouble before the recession, it's just something we've come to expect sadly

**awec** · 08/11/2009, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by galwayjames

LOI football clubs were in financial trouble before the recession, it's just something we've come to expect sadly

Yep.

I may be way off the mark here, but surely it's time to realise that the full time model just won't work?

**galwayjames** · 08/11/2009, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by awec

I may be way off the mark here, but surely it's time to realise that the full time model just won't work?

With the success of Shamrock Rovers, maybe part-time might only be a step down financially, because Rovers ran a team with players on much bigger wages right to the end this season and I'd fancy them to do the same if not better next year

**brendy_�ire** · 08/11/2009, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by awec

Yep.

I may be way off the mark here, but surely it's time to realise that the full time model just won't work?

More to do with the level wages being paid rather than the fact that it's full-time wages. Wages could be reduced and full-time status retained, although we'd lose a lot of players to Britain because of it.

**awec** · 08/11/2009, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

More to do with the level wages being paid rather than the fact that it's full-time wages. Wages could be reduced and full-time status retained, although we'd lose a lot of players to Britain because of it.

You probably would, but then you'd be more financially sound.

**CSFShels** · 08/11/2009, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by awec

Yep.

I may be way off the mark here, but surely it's time to realise that the full time model just won't work?

Plenty of clubs that have been suffering from financial difficulties don't even run as a full-time unit. Full-time is not the problem. Paying over-excessive wages is. If clubs have to pay over-excessive wages to go full-time, then they should not be full-time. But a club like Cork or Shamrock Rovers or Derry with a very big fanbase, should be able to handle a prudently run full-time business. Rovers look like they just might be able.

**Dodge** · 08/11/2009, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by awec

LOI football clubs just seem to be continually in financial problems.

Some are. Others aren't.

No real problems for the majority of clubs this year

**kdjaC** · 08/11/2009, 1:02 AM

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

Oh my word such a hissy fit from Dodge, catch yourself on and wind your neck in, where have i commented your off field staff level, i was commenting on one individual (only).

Sadlier on 4 grand a week, unlike pats to **** money against the wind

**p�l-dcfc** · 08/11/2009, 2:17 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Thank God they put us out of our misery.

Time to start from scratch.

This. As Derry fans, it is our responsibility to ensure that the law breaking cheats of Wellvan Ltd are never allowed near a fotball team in this city again. Time to start afresh. Fan run, transparent club football, hopefully within the LoI.

We will rise again, responsibly.

DCFC Allez Allez Allez.

**p�l-dcfc** · 08/11/2009, 2:29 AM

Originally Posted by VinnyDCFC

RTE News report from earlier tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxLCMVkprE

Disgusting. Utterly disgusting. Pat McDaid: "Shame on them"? NO - SHAME ON US. What a horrible cheating bunch of renegades (the dirtiest word I can use on this forum, I think). We deserve everything, and more, that we got.

I am so ashamed. But McDaid and the board should be mortified.

Thanks for destroying a proud club, and turning us into awful, awful cheats.

EDIT: Can I apologise to any Cork, Bohs, Shels or Drogs fan I have ever offended on this board. Our club genuinely seemed to be doing things above board. We were cheating all along. If I ever appeared condemning or condescending, I apologise. We kept it hidden for longer, but we were filth the whole bloody time.

EDIT 2: If we get away with this on some sort of technicality, the FAI should try to have us expelled by any possible means. I hope this is the end of Wellvan Ltd, and DCFC as we know it. Disgusted. Sick to the stomach.

**GalwayRed** · 08/11/2009, 3:01 AM

Based on what the FAI are saying here the decision seems fair and I would be inclined to believe them over the derry board. I do feel sorry for the fans though. They definitly don't deserve this.
I assume DCFC will be wound up over the swifts case now. Hopefully a new club can represent derry in the loi in the near future though.

**A N Mouse** · 08/11/2009, 3:52 AM

That statement from the board is absolutely sickening. I live in the hope that some kind of criminal charges are forthcoming. As has has been previously stated we haven't seen the end of this. Aledegely quigely's statement to the fai was in response to some kind of posturing to the fai from dcfc with regards to other clubs finances.

**sligored** · 08/11/2009, 6:56 AM

I know these two issues are unrelated but if derry are unable to play top division fooball they have no chance of paying the debt of 600k.

Who , if anyone , will be held ultimately accountable for this.