The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players

**Longfordian** · 07/11/2009, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by John83

It's not clear to me that they've not paid tax on these second contracts. They're in breach of licensing, of course. Not that it matters really - there's no point really in continuing with that company.

Wouldn't it have shown up in their accounts before now then if they had?. Their auditor would have to have seen contracts and P30s and reconciled the two unless he was aware of what was happening?. But as you say it doesn't really matter.

**tippex** · 07/11/2009, 5:37 PM

I'm really sorry for the Derry fans over this.
I cannot believe the powers that be in the club had the players on 2 contracts.
I also agree that the players should also be banned for agreeing to a second contract and where would this leave kenny? surely he would have been aware of said contracts.

**Cormac** · 07/11/2009, 5:39 PM

Cant beleve this news, really, Who knows what the future holds at the moment. Hopefully we'll be back!

**Shiba** · 07/11/2009, 5:39 PM

Originally Posted by 1st time post

Ffs mate give it a rest will ya, this could easy have been us last year if it wasnt for a huge fundraising effort.
Comiserations to all at Derry

Soory but Im looking bigger picture "Mate".Sorry for the fans cos Derry Fans added color to the league but as a club I have no sympathy.They have cheated simple as that to have A STRONG TEAM ON THE PITCH.

**thischarmingman** · 07/11/2009, 5:39 PM

I knew that what happened today was possible, even likely, but until I actually saw it in black and white it hadn't hit home. I'm totally gutted, but at least, as ORA said:

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Time to start from scratch.

**kingdomkerry** · 07/11/2009, 5:42 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Thank God they put us out of our misery.

Time to start from scratch.

What will this involve. Please tell me its time to start from scratch in the loi?

**jebus** · 07/11/2009, 5:43 PM

Time to start the whole league from scratch I think, it's just not working

**CuanaD** · 07/11/2009, 5:46 PM

Sickened for all those wonderful Derry fans

But glad that the cheats have been caught & turfed out.

& IF, as is being speculated a few posts above, similar cheating is going on in other clubs, then they all should be turffed out & we can start from scratch,
with clubs we can be proud to support

**Gareth** · 07/11/2009, 5:47 PM

full FAI statement now available in that link

**thischarmingman** · 07/11/2009, 5:50 PM

I don't really know what to do with myself for the rest of the evening following that news.

**Mr A** · 07/11/2009, 5:50 PM

FAI Statement:

The Board of Management of the Football Association of Ireland today (November 7) took the decision to terminate Derry City Football Club’s contract to participate in the League of Ireland.

The decision to terminate is based on the failure of Derry City FC to comply with the terms and conditions of the Participation Agreement, in particular their breach of clauses 8.2, 8.3.1, 8.3.4, 8.3.5 and 8.3.6 of that contract.
The Board of Management of the FAI reached its decision following statements from FAI personnel that Derry City FC had admitted to them at a meeting of November 4 (held at the request of Derry City FC), to holding second unofficial contracts with its players. There is contractual evidence to substantiate this.
Subject to the ongoing cooperation of Derry City Football Club being forthcoming, the Board has agreed that an FAI delegation will, in the coming week, meet with Derry City FC and the various other stakeholders to consider how Derry City Football Club may participate in senior football in the League of Ireland next season, at some level other than in the Premier Division. This of course will be subject to the normal licensing process.
The forthcoming Setanta Sports Cup match on November 10 involving Derry City FC has now been postponed, pending discussions with the Irish Football Association, through the Setanta Sports Cup Committee.
On the basis of today’s decision Drogheda United will now play Bray Wanderers in the Premier Division play-off on Tuesday, November 10.

**Jofspring** · 07/11/2009, 5:50 PM

So out of all of this the First Division will be losing one team next season if Derry aren't allowed enter it. If Salthill don't accept the invitation which i presume they now have automatically that means two teams gone. Only 1 team relegated to first division if Shels or Fingal beat either Drogheda or Bray and no one up from A league to replace Kildare. So three teams leaving the first division and possible only 1 coming in. As Jebus says, i think its time to start from scratch, sooner rather than later.

**Candystripe** · 07/11/2009, 5:51 PM

If we can have a team in the first division next season with a totally new club run by fans then I will be ecstatic.

Our board and club seriously took us fans and fuc ked us big time.

Still hasn't sunk in yet.

**Mr A** · 07/11/2009, 5:52 PM

So that certainly leaves the door open to Derry playing in the first division. I wonder what the likes of Tralee and Castlebar would have to say about that- seeing a club bypass the process they have to go through to get into the league.

Sad, sad day for the league and for Derry fans, but very positive that serious wrongdoing has been identified and punished. One would hope that the FAI now look at all the clubs much more closely.

**higgins** · 07/11/2009, 5:52 PM

All that has happened is you've been kicked out of the LOI... You still have a mountain of debt to deal with and no way at present to generate any income ??
What will happen now to the holding company ?

Directors and Players and even the Manager should also have individual bans in place from taking part in the LOI.

If Kildare do go too then two divisions of 10 teams make sense.
If Cork go and maybe another then surely it's time for one division of 18.

Sad for Derry fans but it's a positive step for the LOI, it's about time the FAI dealt with these issues.

**jebus** · 07/11/2009, 5:53 PM

Sweepstakes on how long it takes someone to start a new 'How to SAVE IRISH FOOTBALL' thread?

I say one hour

**christo** · 07/11/2009, 5:54 PM

Is the play-off between Kildare and Salthill now cancelled as well then?

**Shiba** · 07/11/2009, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by 1st time post

Ffs mate give it a rest will ya, this could easy have been us last year if it wasnt for a huge fundraising effort.
Comiserations to all at Derry

Sorry for my Ignorance!

What Derry City Football Club have done "IS this not Cheating"?

**Mr A** · 07/11/2009, 5:54 PM

This must spell the end for Wellvan. It's now a question of whether they can organise quickly enough to get a club together for next year.

**1st time post** · 07/11/2009, 5:55 PM

Originally Posted by Shiba

Soory but Im looking bigger picture "Mate".Sorry for the fans cos Derry Fans added color to the league but as a club I have no sympathy.They have cheated simple as that to have A STRONG TEAM ON THE PITCH.

Ya im pretty sure everyone here is aware of that but the way you put it across in your first post does come across as gloating when this is definitely not the time for it!!imagine if this was Rovers......