The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players

**OneRedArmy** · 09/12/2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by corkharps

They cheated and broke the law! What do you expect?

People not to claim it was all a cunning plan?

Or that our wage bill will be 12k a week for that matter.

**corkharps** · 09/12/2009, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

Read the thread.

The point being made is that whether or not the team ending up debt free in the first division (if that is what eventually happens) constitutes "getting off lightly", the directors are obviously not getting off lightly. Nobody is trying to make them out as victims here.

So they hold their heads in shame for a few weeks and then move on? I'd call that getting off lightly,there's people in prison for doing less!
Its just SO soul destroying when Harps are scraping to pay back EVERY cent off their debts, and shinny new Derry City(under the guidance of the same manager that signed last years players for half off what they were really getting!) are trying to poach their players, offering big wages!
I personally think Kenny should get a ban. There is NO WAY that he didn't know what was going on.

**dcfcsteve** · 09/12/2009, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by cheech

Good post and extra points for flagellating! Honestly, I'm not having a go at the Derry fans (except Sanctimonious Steve)

You don't have a go Cheech - just a handbag.....

**MariborKev** · 09/12/2009, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by cheech

If the figure of 12K a week re: wages is anywhere near the truth

It's not.

**Candystripe** · 10/12/2009, 3:49 AM

Originally Posted by MariborKev

It's not.

As Mkev just posted "it's not", the latest word is that the players budget will be closer to �4,000 a week.

With over half the squad made up from our U21 team or other local players currently playing in the Irish league.

Hopefully that's one less brush to beat us Derry fans with.

Also, like ShantyKelly said....what other L.O.I. fan would turn down the chance to play in the 1st division when a few weeks ago we thought that we would be playing in our local sunday afternoon league.

To also get the chance to raise much needed funds from our game with Linfield is something else that is hard to say no too.

BTW We will be starting the season at least �100K down as the new board have agreed to give "free season tickets" to the 300 or so who bought season tickets from the previous board plus paid Dungannon swifts and some other debts to try and save some face for our club after the farce that was bestowed on us fans.

**tiktok** · 10/12/2009, 6:29 AM

Originally Posted by shantykelly

bear in mind here that its the fai that allowing us to apply for a place in the first division. when the news broke regarding all this thisness, most derry fans would gladly have settled for the A League and a chance to rebuild. we're being offered more than we expected, and truth be told have a right to get, but which fan of his or her club wouldnt jump at the chance of improving their position, especially when we have so much rebuilding to do. i can just imagine it now:

fai - here derry, take this place in the first division
dcfc - ah, no thanks there. i think i'll just keep flagellating myself in the corner here if its all the same to you.

are we happy at the way things have been done? no
are we going to take every opportunity to save our club and get it into the best position possible in the circumstances? yes
are there any football fans here who wouldn't take the same for their club if in similar straits? honestly? (apart from ucd lads).

Great Post.

As I've said previously in this thread, when the inevitable happens in Cork, we'll be pointing to the precedents being set now with Derry City. Fudge or not, supporters are going to try to do what's best for their club, it's up to the FAI to enforce their own rules, it's just really disappointing that after all the soundings from Abbotstown, nothing has changed really.

**osarusan** · 10/12/2009, 9:47 AM

Originally Posted by tiktok

As I've said previously in this thread, when the inevitable happens in Cork, we'll be pointing to the precedents being set now with Derry City. Fudge or not, supporters are going to try to do what's best for their club, it's up to the FAI to enforce their own rules, it's just really disappointing that after all the soundings from Abbotstown, nothing has changed really.

This is true, because I got the impression from both Cork and Derry fans that, given the trouble they were in, they'd have been relatively happy to end up in the A-Championship.

The FAI could have used the Derry case to set what I think is a good precedent for the future (at least 2 years out of top flight football) without much resistance from the clubs affected, but seemingly have failed to do so.

That said, how confident are Derry fans that they'll be plaing in Div. 1 next season? Could things change yet?

**pineapple stu** · 10/12/2009, 10:04 AM

dcfcsteve - most other fans can debate intelligently on this thread. You've consistently reduced it to petty mud-slinging (luring Harps players with the attraction of traffic lights, "Lots of luv, Sx", "You don't have a go Cheech - just a handbag..... ". Give it a rest and argue like an adult, FFS.

**Sam_Heggy** · 10/12/2009, 2:40 PM

Originally Posted by Candystripe

As Mkev just posted "it's not", the latest word is that the players budget will be closer to �4,000 a week.

That will be a very decent budget in the First Divison in fairness. Our manager would be over the moon with that sort of Budget.
Maybe Cobh fans can verify but I seem to recall Hendo won them the First Div on around €3000 per week.
From what I hear, our playing budget will be a percentage of yours (not a big percentage either) per week but our outgoings (paying creditors, general running costs, etc) will be about double your Budget.
Hence the reason for the Sour Grapes.

**Candystripe** · 10/12/2009, 3:40 PM

Sam, if you's get two home games against us I'm sure your board will be delighted although your fans might not be when the enevitable happens.

**pineapple stu** · 10/12/2009, 3:44 PM

Derry sign their first four players.

Don't know how significant they were last term?

**Doomofman** · 10/12/2009, 4:36 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Derry sign their first four players.

Don't know how significant they were last term?

They now have a bigger squad then Pats..

**brendy_�ire** · 10/12/2009, 4:47 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Derry sign their first four players.

Don't know how significant they were last term?

Shane McEleney, James McClean and Davy McDaid started that season in the A side, but gradually became more of a fixture in the senior squad. They all look like decent prospects.
Patrick McEleney has come back from Sunderland, was playing in their reserves.

**Sam_Heggy** · 10/12/2009, 4:52 PM

Originally Posted by Candystripe

Sam, if you's get two home games against us I'm sure your board will be delighted although your fans might not be when the enevitable happens.

We will be delighted with 2 home games, but, if it's just one then we will have another b!tch and moanfest about that.

As for the Inevitable, is that when Kenny throws the toys out of the pram demanding bigger budgets and hotels for all away trips?

**OneRedArmy** · 10/12/2009, 4:56 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Derry sign their first four players.

Don't know how significant they were last term?

James was a regular for the second half of the season, the others not so much. But young, hungry, local lads are exactly the type of player we should be signing. Geography, tax, and currency differences mean we really shouldn't expect to compete for top class players from Dublin and beyond.

**Martinho II** · 10/12/2009, 5:31 PM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Shane McEleney, James McClean and Davy McDaid started that season in the A side, but gradually became more of a fixture in the senior squad. They all look like decent prospects.
Patrick McEleney has come back from Sunderland, was playing in their reserves.

wasnt Davy McDaid on loan with Sligo Rovers before???

**dancinpants** · 10/12/2009, 5:39 PM

Young McDaid made a few appearances toward the end of the season. Scored a goal in three of the last four matces.

**marty** · 10/12/2009, 6:28 PM

Just to verify I believe the Cobh budget was around the 3000 mark for the playing staff,you dont need a big budget in the first division to do well as proven by Cobh and most recently UCD