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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Wellvan Enterprises, trading as DCFC, is now in Administration.

    As for the crest, I suspect there'll be strong fan pressure to change it as most didn't like our current crest anyway.

    However - that is unconnected to the change in legal entity. A chunk of fans have been pushing for a new crest for years now.
    I asked this before but presumably it's in administration with a view to winding it up rather than a rescue plan being put together?.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longfordian View Post
    I asked this before but presumably it's in administration with a view to winding it up rather than a rescue plan being put together?.
    You would imagine if a new company has been set up they're expecting the first one to be wound up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    What did it say? When was it signed? Did it refer to the McGinn transfer contract?
    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Signed with invisible ink on rice paper that was subsequently eaten by those involved.

    Ergo - any proof of such a contract has turned to sh!t.
    Don't worry your cotton socks. Those that need that information already have all.

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    OK - I'm not trying to wind anyone up, just a bit curious

    But am I reading this right?
    Wellvan are essentially gone. A new company has been formed with the name Derry City and this is the team that will go into division 1 next season.

    If its a brand new entity (albeit with a similar name) will dispensation be required from FIFA for this brand new company to ply their trade in a different country? The political climate has changed dramatically in the last 20odd years.

    If, however the FAI feel they can transfer the existing licence to the new Derry, then surely it can be done with Foras, but why not Limerick 37?


    Could it get messy and Delaney's plan not be a certainty? I don't think the FAI would be looked upon too kindly by FIFA at the moment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celdrog View Post
    OK - I'm not trying to wind anyone up, just a bit curious

    But am I reading this right?
    Wellvan are essentially gone. A new company has been formed with the name Derry City and this is the team that will go into division 1 next season.

    If its a brand new entity (albeit with a similar name) will dispensation be required from FIFA for this brand new company to ply their trade in a different country? The political climate has changed dramatically in the last 20odd years.

    If, however the FAI feel they can transfer the existing licence to the new Derry, then surely it can be done with Foras, but why not Limerick 37?


    Could it get messy and Delaney's plan not be a certainty? I don't think the FAI would be looked upon too kindly by FIFA at the moment

    Then again they could agree to dispensation to soften the blow of the WCQ match

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celdrog View Post
    OK - I'm not trying to wind anyone up, just a bit curious

    But am I reading this right?
    Wellvan are essentially gone. A new company has been formed with the name Derry City and this is the team that will go into division 1 next season.

    If its a brand new entity (albeit with a similar name) will dispensation be required from FIFA for this brand new company to ply their trade in a different country? The political climate has changed dramatically in the last 20odd years.

    If, however the FAI feel they can transfer the existing licence to the new Derry, then surely it can be done with Foras, but why not Limerick 37?


    Could it get messy and Delaney's plan not be a certainty? I don't think the FAI would be looked upon too kindly by FIFA at the moment
    Celdrog,

    The new trading company will have two options

    1. Contact the administrator and purchase the member name "Derry City FC", which is the member club of the FAI. If this is the case the new club will be able to apply for a licence, and hope to gain a licence. Licence Transfer is not an option

    2. If 1 is unsuccessful then the trading company would have to establish a new club and seek a new dispensation etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Signed with invisible ink on rice paper that was subsequently eaten by those involved.

    Ergo - any proof of such a contract has turned to sh!t.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Parker View Post
    Don't worry your cotton socks. Those that need that information already have all.

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    Are you saying that Derry City agreed the two friendlies with Celtic for Paddy Mc Court as part of the transfer in july '08 and decided to fund there expense as well?

    Why in under feck would Derry agree to that? Granted our board may not have been the brightest sparks but...................this seems a bit strange to say the least!

    Why did we not pay the hotel expenses for the 1st friendly with them last year but then change the terms of the transfer deal so WE would lose out.

    Crazy!:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candystripe View Post
    Are you saying that Derry City agreed the two friendlies with Celtic for Paddy Mc Court as part of the transfer in july '08 and decided to fund there expense as well?

    Why in under feck would Derry agree to that? Granted our board may not have been the brightest sparks but...................this seems a bit strange to say the least!

    Why did we not pay the hotel expenses for the 1st friendly with them last year but then change the terms of the transfer deal so WE would lose out.

    Crazy!:
    That's because he's talking out of his hoop CS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candystripe View Post
    Are you saying that Derry City agreed the two friendlies with Celtic for Paddy Mc Court as part of the transfer in july '08 and decided to fund there expense as well?

    Why in under feck would Derry agree to that? Granted our board may not have been the brightest sparks but...................this seems a bit strange to say the least!

    Why did we not pay the hotel expenses for the 1st friendly with them last year but then change the terms of the transfer deal so WE would lose out.

    Crazy!:
    What was agreed with Celtic is one thing, what was agreed with Cliftonville is another.

    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    That's because he's talking out of his hoop CS.
    I'm sure the administrator, the IFA and FAI will confirm.
    Last edited by pineapple stu; 24/11/2009 at 9:21 AM.

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    Mr Parker - the thread was reopened with the express rule that the association membership issue be ignored. That's twice you've tried to steer it onto that ground. I've deleted your posts on the matter; don't do it again. We've already seen the drivel that lies down that road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariborKev View Post
    Celdrog,

    The new trading company will have two options

    1. Contact the administrator and purchase the member name "Derry City FC", which is the member club of the FAI. If this is the case the new club will be able to apply for a licence, and hope to gain a licence. Licence Transfer is not an option

    2. If 1 is unsuccessful then the trading company would have to establish a new club and seek a new dispensation etc.

    1. You can purchase the Trading name Derry City FC [I think it was Wellvan t/a Derry Cty FC] but bow can you buy membership of the FAI? I assume the intention of this is to bypass the 3 years FAI affiliation that a new club would need, but I don't see how specifically the 'member name' is a tradable commodity by the liquidator since you don't 'own' the membership, the FAI do, and since they've broken the contract with you, how could it possibly be traded..

    By the way, Licence transfer IS an option if you were willing to take on Wellvan's debts. If it really is 80% directors loans and the directors we're willing to write those off, you'd have a much more manageable bill. Though I guess the issue there is that the participation contract has been torn up and that if you took over the existing club and it was liquidated you're out of Europe for three years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Mr Parker - the thread was reopened with the express rule that the association membership issue be ignored. That's twice you've tried to steer it onto that ground. I've deleted your posts on the matter; don't do it again. We've already seen the drivel that lies down that road.
    Sorry I had missed that part. Seems strange to do so when is is an essential element of this discussion. Where should we discuss that issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Parker View Post
    Sorry I had missed that part. Seems strange to do so when is is an essential element of this discussion. Where should we discuss that issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Parker View Post
    Sorry I had missed that part. Seems strange to do so when is is an essential element of this discussion. Where should we discuss that issue?
    Look at the nonsense the thread descended into when it was being discussed. That's why it's being left out. You're free to take up ORA's suggestion if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Wellvan Enterprises, trading as DCFC, is now in Administration.
    That was quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule View Post
    That was quick.
    Its not that hard to register a new company...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Its not that hard to register a new company...
    Do you not get the joke man...

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    Why the FAI thought they could withhold the registrations of a bunch of players who hadn't been paid in months is beyond me.

    Its clear as day, to me at least, the players share an amount of blame in the whole thing, but you can't wilfully keep people out of employment without affording them due process.

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