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    Quote Originally Posted by dortie View Post
    I wonder what crazy individual will put themsleves forward now. Meanwhile Stephen Kenny still remains exempt from it all !!
    I'd imagine an interim board will be put in place until someone else comes in long term, although god knows who would want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy View Post
    So the financial side would have been overcome?
    To blame a player is mental, the club f*cked him over [open to correction] by not paying him something like 8 weeks wages, I assume he had a mortgage to pay and possibly a family to keep?
    He has a young child, no more than 18 months, more than likely younger.

    Quote Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton View Post
    Is Darren Quigley the only player is LOI history to be failed to be paid by two clubs at the same time? By the loan agreement, Fingal allegedly paid Derry 75% of wages, which the club pocketed and then failed to pay Darren his 'actual' amount.

    As has been said, you couldn't make it up.
    I didn't think my estimation of the Derry board could go even lower but this is surely rock bottom now for whatever ounce of respect they used to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancinpants View Post
    Official: Board have resigned.
    Aha. The thick plottens.
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    FAI Statement:

    The Football Association of Ireland tonight (November 10) confirmed that following a meeting in Abbotstown, the players of Derry City Football Club have put on public record the fact that they had signed two contracts, the standard player’s contract and a separate contract on club headed paper.

    As of today, the FAI has accepted these players’ assurances that they were not personally aware of any financial irregularities at the club. The FAI also recognise the difficulties that have been created by the club in not paying players for the last eight/nine weeks at Derry City FC, and the impact that has on each player and his immediate family.

    The FAI has also confirmed that it intends to send a delegation to Derry, on Thursday, with a view to beginning the process of returning the club to stability, now that the Club Chairman has accepted his untenable position.

    ENDS

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    STATEMENT OF THE PLAYERS OF DERRY CITY FOOTBALL CLUB



    Tuesday 10 November 2009



    The events of the past week have come as major shock and disappointment to the players of Derry City Football Club. Until the allegations of “dual contracts” were made very recently, no player was aware of the existence of a second document which contained different figures to the one which we had originally agreed.



    The position is that at the beginning of the contract period, each player was presented with a document on Derry City headed paper which contained income amounts which we each individually agreed with the club. With only one exception, no player knowingly signed a second document. It now appears that, what the club had misrepresented to us as a blank registration form containing no figures, terms or conditions was, in fact, a second document upon which different figures were subsequently entered and lodged with the league. The full terms of this contract were never made available to the players and we fully believed that the wages which we were being paid were disclosed to the league in accordance with normal practice.



    It has transpired that one of the players was aware of the existence of the second document but had ensured that the figures entered on it were identical to those on the original headed paper. No other players were aware of a second document.



    As soon as the players became aware of the situation, we have immediately agreed to set the record straight and we wish to have nothing to do with this wrongdoing. We are deeply distressed at this turn of events and we wish to distance ourselves entirely from the board’s conduct.



    We recognise that the actions of the club board have compromised the integrity of the league but we wish to make it perfectly clear that we were not knowing participants in this deception.



    We hope that by addressing these issues and by clarifying our position, the club can now move forward and have a future in senior football.

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    But to obtain a First Division all wages to staff is to be paid up to date or an agreement put in place.

    I cant see this happening although share prices in fudge have risen sharply recently.
    Haven't transfer fees to be all paid up but does this include any sell-on agreements?

    If this is looked at as part of the transfer fee then Dungannon have to be paid as well before a licence is awarded.
    Or is it only within the LOI?
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    So the players weren't aware of irregularities yet they signed both contracts?

    Wut? This makes NO sense!
    #NeverStopNotGivingUp

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    Just for the record, here's Pat McDaid's statement:

    It is with deep regret and sadness that I must announce with immediate effect my resignation as Chairman of Derry City Football Club
    I also take this opportunity to announce the resignations of Joe W Doherty, Peter Leonard and Francis Houston

    I feel that this is an important step to ensure Derry City return to the League of Ireland and it’s quite clear my relationship with Mr Delaney and the FAI has reached a point of no return. This was articulated clearly by Mr Delaney on this mornings Radio Foyle program and this has left me in a difficult position to say the least. Respectfully this is perhaps the only issue on which Mr Delaney and I can agree upon


    It’s my view that it would not be in the best interests of this football club for me to continue in light of the stance taken by the FAI and I need to take into consideration the players, fans, office staff, coaches and volunteers of the club. Personalities have to be a secondary consideration and the sole focus of efforts must now be turned into securing our senior status in Irish football


    Without prejudice to all that has happened, or allegedly happened, Derry City Football Club must survive and I feel, despite my desire to remain and be part of a solution to move this club forward, that the best interests of the club are being served by this decision


    On a personal level I feel I have always acted in the best interests of this magnificent club and it has been a privilege and a huge honor to have been chairman for this past two years. Derry City is a big part of my life and four different generations of my family have supported this historical club and I take this decision to resign with a heavy heart


    I would like to take this opportunity to thank a number of people who have supported me over this past two years:


    My family and friends have given me unquantifiable support – my wife Shauna and three children Patrick, Caoimhe and Emma together with my wider family circle have been a source of tremendous support and encouragement during what for long times have been testing and tremendously pressurised circumstances


    I would also like to place on record my thanks to all directors I have worked with, office staff, coaches, players, club volunteers and in particular the fans of this club which are without doubt the best in Ireland and its been an incredible privilege for me to work on behalf of so many fantastic people


    I would also like to thank the vast majority of the local and national press and media for the courtesy and respect they have afforded me


    Stephen Mc Carron is remaining on the board of Derry City FC and I wish him and any future new directors the very best of good fortune for the future and its my genuine and honest hope and desire that the current difficulties may be overcome


    I will forever remain as a supporter and sponsor of this football club and would now ask for people to kindly respect my privacy as taking this decision has been one of the hardest decisions of my life, but its my firm belief I was left with no choice and will not take any risks in terms of our future return to senior football, by remaining in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    So the players weren't aware of irregularities yet they signed both contracts?

    Wut? This makes NO sense!
    The FAI, Derry City board, and Derry City players have all released official press statements in the same half hour period...it's possible there was a little but of, shall we say, 'understanding' going on in the background...
    Last edited by thischarmingman; 10/11/2009 at 10:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    So the players weren't aware of irregularities yet they signed both contracts?

    Wut? This makes NO sense!
    Did you miss this part of the players statement?

    "The position is that at the beginning of the contract period, each player was presented with a document on Derry City headed paper which contained income amounts which we each individually agreed with the club. With only one exception, no player knowingly signed a second document. It now appears that, what the club had misrepresented to us as a blank registration form containing no figures, terms or conditions was, in fact, a second document upon which different figures were subsequently entered and lodged with the league. The full terms of this contract were never made available to the players and we fully believed that the wages which we were being paid were disclosed to the league in accordance with normal practice".

    So they're claiming they thought the second document was just a registration form. Seems plausible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire View Post
    FAI Statement:

    The Football Association of Ireland tonight (November 10) confirmed that following a meeting in Abbotstown, the players of Derry City Football Club have put on public record the fact that they had signed two contracts, the standard player’s contract and a separate contract on club headed paper.

    As of today, the FAI has accepted these players’ assurances that they were not personally aware of any financial irregularities at the club. The FAI also recognise the difficulties that have been created by the club in not paying players for the last eight/nine weeks at Derry City FC, and the impact that has on each player and his immediate family.

    The FAI has also confirmed that it intends to send a delegation to Derry, on Thursday, with a view to beginning the process of returning the club to stability, now that the Club Chairman has accepted his untenable position.

    ENDS
    So Pat McDaid is a big liar and they all signed dual contracts?
    I’m not pedantic...I’m merely overly concerned with minute details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedser View Post

    So they're claiming they thought the second document was just a registration form. Seems plausible.

    Plausible

    Are you having a laugh.

    Would you sign a blank employment contract with your employer? "Just fill in the terms later Boss when you have a chance"

    This story stinks.

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    So, footballers are as stupid as they say.....

    Although they are bright enough to know when to fess up.

    The PFAI have played a blinder here. The players are effectively claiming they didn't know what a Standard Player Contract was.

    Unbelievable.

    Literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kildareman View Post
    But to obtain a First Division all wages to staff is to be paid up to date or an agreement put in place.

    I cant see this happening although share prices in fudge have risen sharply recently.
    Haven't transfer fees to be all paid up but does this include any sell-on agreements?

    If this is looked at as part of the transfer fee then Dungannon have to be paid as well before a licence is awarded.
    Or is it only within the LOI?
    It's possible some Derry entity will have to start from A Division next year. Therefore they wouldn't have to pay old companies debts.
    I'm what? I'm ants at a picnic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    So, footballers are as stupid as they say.....

    Although they are bright enough to know when to fess up.

    The PFAI have played a blinder here. The players are effectively claiming they didn't know what a Standard Player Contract was.

    Unbelievable.

    Literally.
    Are they not actually claiming that the didnt realise the figures werent the same? no?
    I’m not pedantic...I’m merely overly concerned with minute details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue til i die View Post
    Are they not actually claiming that the didnt realise the figures werent the same? no?
    They are claiming they signed the unofficial contract on headed paper populated with the real details and then signed a blank Standard Playing Contract which they thought was a registration document....

    "Aye right hi" as we say in Derry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue til i die View Post
    So Pat McDaid is a big liar and they all signed dual contracts?
    Not dual contracts as such, no. Just that the players signed the Offical Contract, which was given to the FAI, then signed their 'real' contract with higher wages on it.

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    Well then, where will DCFC be playing next year?

    Is it the defo the First Division? Then we have ppl saying they've been banned from the LOI altogether

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule View Post
    Well then, where will DCFC be playing next year?

    Is it the defo the First Division? Then we have ppl saying they've been banned from the LOI altogether
    Your guess is as good as mine. FAI want to meet the Club on Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule View Post
    Well then, where will DCFC be playing next year?

    Is it the defo the First Division? Then we have ppl saying they've been banned from the LOI altogether
    Haven't checked for an update tonight but last i did Derry are out of LOI altogether for the moment anyway.

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