The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players

[marinobohs]

I think Derry or more accurately their directors have little option but to try the legal route if they're to avoid action under the Companies Acts but I'm struggling to think of any occasions where the courts have overruled the FAI. In the meantime whats being done about their whopping great debts and the winding up order on its way from Dungannon?. There's not likely to be much goodwill or enthusiasm towards any fundraising activities either. Their very existence was in obvious and serious danger before Saturday despite what their chairman is saying.

I expect they (Derry city) will maintain that the prize money was "earned" before they were exspelled and therefore due to them. Cannot see it working to be honest, and suspect it may be a bargaining ploy to get a few bob from uncle Frank and aunty Irene to ease the pain of 1st Division for next year.
have to feel sorry for the fans, especially those that raised so much money for the club in recent times.

[thischarmingman]

Lets see the evidence first, our solicitor would not entertain this if he seen anything substantial from the FAI. Get it all out in court, if there is adequate evidence then i am sure the FAI can supply the court of law. If not ....then thats another story.

The way he was so right about Dungannon's money?

[cregganite]

I'm an ancient Derry City supporter. Heck, I was even supporting them when they last won the Irish League and Irish Cup in the 1960s. I followed Shamrock Rovers when I lived in Dublin before Derry got into the LOI and there were scandals and fiddles going on way back then. But this carry on takes the proverbial jam donut !

Leaving aside the fact that the League of Ireland has been a Mickey Mouse set-up for decades with clubs folding and coming back under different names and boards after all sorts of shennigans and even that the FAI top brass has been embroiled in scandals itself (e.g. international ticket sales), and has got away with them, what most concerns me right now is the political effect kicking Derry City out of the LOI will have.

Already some dissident republicans in the city are ****-a-hoop at what they see as a "Free State slap in the face to the city of Derry".

The entry of City into the LOI provided an alternative to the sterile political violence going on in Derry in the mid-1980s. Derry people were able to escape from the place and visit parts of Ireland (and indeed Europe) where many had never been before, and were able to forge friendships and contacts. In return, southerners and European supporters were welcome in the city of Derry and at the Brandywell.

Now all that good work is threatened and the potential exists for a poisoning of relations between North and South.

If Derry does not have an active senior football club, and preferably one participating in an All-Ireland league, there are those of us who genuinely fear that with the Bloody Sunday report and a UK general election both looming, young people may be lured by the counter-attraction of dissident republicanism which may step in to fill the void. This would be disastrous.

Certainly, Derry City Football Club deserve to be punished. But let's not throw the baby out with the bath-water. There are other sanctions available to the FAI without robbing the city of Derry of its senior football status. And this issue cannot be seen in isolation from its impact politically, socially and culturally on the city and on cross-Border relations.

I am aware that political representations are already underway and I hope these bear fruit. I am also aware (because I have been approached to participate) that, failing a resolution of this matter, protests may be staged at the FAI Cup Final and at both legs of the Ireland v France play-offs; Derry City supporters have built up a rapport with some Paris St. Germain fans through UEFA Cup matches with them and avenues are already being explored there - I hear - towards a joint demonstration.

Hopefully, it'll all blow over. Some of the alternatives are too painful to ponder.

[Réiteoir]

Please, please, please stop talking crap about Bohs. I know it P**ses people off that we will be WITHIN the rules but get over it ! silly made up accusations are a waste of time (and don't make up for losing a cup final).

Can we have the following put up in bold on the top of every page of this forum please so people can look at it and read it before sticking in the boot when they post:

The Final 65% Salary Cost Protocol will be calculated using the total figures presented along with relevant financial documents at the end of November in the corresponding year.

Any club found to be outside them on this date will be sanctioned - no sooner, no later. Any club which manages to pull themselves under the 65% by the end of November WILL NOT BE SANCTIONED.

[Steve Bruce]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14556801.html

[Predator]

Good first post, cregganite!

[WoodquayBoy]

So Derry can't be thrown out of the League in case young lads turn to terrorism??? Okaaaaaaaaaay

[passerrby]

bloody hell cregginite ya mean this could start a war thats all we need a continuity fai

[OneRedArmy]

Won't somebody PLEASE think about the children...............

[cregganite]

The Belfast Telegraph report above speaks of only nice Mark Durkan talking to the FAI. Wait'll Marty makes them an offer they can't refuse.

[SMorgan]

I expect they (Derry city) will maintain that the prize money was "earned" before they were exspelled and therefore due to them. Cannot see it working to be honest, and suspect it may be a bargaining ploy to get a few bob from uncle Frank and aunty Irene to ease the pain of 1st Division for next year.
have to feel sorry for the fans, especially those that raised so much money for the club in recent times.

Ben Johnston didn't get his Gold medal just because the race was over when he faied his drugs test. However, Derry City should get the prize money for coming last in the Premier Division.

[dong]

Already some dissident republicans in the city are ****-a-hoop at what they see as a "Free State slap in the face to the city of Derry".

The entry of City into the LOI provided an alternative to the sterile political violence going on in Derry in the mid-1980s. Derry people were able to escape from the place and visit parts of Ireland (and indeed Europe) where many had never been before, and were able to forge friendships and contacts. In return, southerners and European supporters were welcome in the city of Derry and at the Brandywell.

Now all that good work is threatened and the potential exists for a poisoning of relations between North and South.

If Derry does not have an active senior football club, and preferably one participating in an All-Ireland league, there are those of us who genuinely fear that with the Bloody Sunday report and a UK general election both looming, young people may be lured by the counter-attraction of dissident republicanism which may step in to fill the void. This would be disastrous.

Certainly, Derry City Football Club deserve to be punished. But let's not throw the baby out with the bath-water. There are other sanctions available to the FAI without robbing the city of Derry of its senior football status. And this issue cannot be seen in isolation from its impact politically, socially and culturally on the city and on cross-Border relations.

I am aware that political representations are already underway and I hope these bear fruit. I am also aware (because I have been approached to participate) that, failing a resolution of this matter, protests may be staged at the FAI Cup Final and at both legs of the Ireland v France play-offs; Derry City supporters have built up a rapport with some Paris St. Germain fans through UEFA Cup matches with them and avenues are already being explored there - I hear - towards a joint demonstration.

Hopefully, it'll all blow over. Some of the alternatives are too painful to ponder.

Get over yourselves. "Keep us in or we'll have no choice but to start blowing people up again because we'll have nothing else to do!"
Sickening attitude. I have sympathy for Derry fans, as I have posted before, and Derry will be sorely missed from the League but their club has been run into the ground and punished accordingly and you need to take your medicine.
Taking the FAI to Court now? Come on lads, get real.

[galwayjames]

Get over yourselves. "Keep us in or we'll have no choice but to start blowing people up again because we'll have nothing else to do!"
Sickening attitude. I have sympathy for Derry fans, as I have posted before, and Derry will be sorely missed from the League but their club has been run into the ground and punished accordingly and you need to take your medicine.
Taking the FAI to Court now? Come on lads, get real.

Have you ever been to Derry?

[pineapple stu]

Please, please, please stop talking crap about Bohs. I know it P**ses people off that we will be WITHIN the rules but get over it ! silly made up accusations are a waste of time (and don't make up for losing a cup final).

Can we have the following put up in bold on the top of every page of this forum please so people can look at it and read it before sticking in the boot when they post:

The Final 65% Salary Cost Protocol will be calculated using the total figures presented along with relevant financial documents at the end of November in the corresponding year.

Any club found to be outside them on this date will be sanctioned - no sooner, no later. Any club which manages to pull themselves under the 65% by the end of November WILL NOT BE SANCTIONED.

I think this needs to go on the top -

Sometimes Bluebeard makes posts which are deliberately exaggerated in order to use humour to highlight the follies of the league. People shouldn't get upset just because he's being sarcastic.

[dong]

Have you ever been to Derry?

Yes. Plenty of times.

[OneRedArmy]

Have you ever been to Derry?

Have you ever been to earth?

Not the place on the Strand Road btw....

[OneRedArmy]

I'm hearing that John Delaney has just upped the ante considerably in a media briefing.....

[Mr A]

I'm hearing that John Delaney has just upped the ante considerably in a media briefing.....

Did he challenge Pat McDaid to a duel?

That would be quite incredibly cool.

Although McDaid would probably bring an extra pistol, then deny using it later.

[galwayjames]

Have you ever been to earth?

Not the place on the Strand Road btw....

Derry is a nice place by the way, what i meant was young eejits from Derry would think of terrorism way before a Sligo person would, but luck it's not meant to be an offence

[SkStu]

Although McDaid would probably bring an extra pistol, then deny using it later.

no, no - it was just an interim pistol while the real pistol was being finalised...