West Ham v. Milwall

[Roadend]

Thats not true, i seen it on Green Street

Isn't Danny Dire a mockney?

What did they expect from this fixture anyway?

The authorities obviously hadn't seen Green street, the lucky cants.

[reder]

The worst football violence I have seen in many years. Football violence echos the state of the nation in England. Durings the 70' & 80's that type of scene wouldnt have made the news. Fast forward to 2009, we are now in the grips of a mini depression, ecenomic crisis etc. I think this could be the first of many. An unbelieveably high level of policing prevents similar trouble at the likes of Liverpool v Man United.

I went to the Millwall v Liverpool game in the Carling Cup in 2004 and it was extremely nasty. I was in the upper tier of the away fans and could see all sorts of stuff getting thrown at opposition fans in both directions and Liverpool fans in the lower tier and Millwall fans in the main stand spent the last 10 minutes fighting with police.

[reder]

The authorities obviously hadn't seen Green street, the lucky cants.

Anyone with any understanding of English football in the 80s would have seen past the rubbish in that film and understood the nasty underlying theme.

[rava]

Never seen that film but anything to do with Millwall and you know it's trouble.

While Im sure the Millwall fans were at it outside the stadium, it was all West hams mob inside. Typical sky though they have been showing programmes for years glorifying these thugs from the past and then when something kicks off ( which it was bound to do sooner or later) they cant wait to sensationalise it. To be honest this element of english footballs past has been slowly creeping back into the game and I have witnessed trouble at the past two games I have been at.

[Umberside]

What did they expect from this fixture anyway?

It kinda reminds me of Ireland v England back in '95. The police knew there would be some trouble but they were hopeless when it came.

[Umberside]

What did they expect from this fixture anyway?

It kinda reminds me of Ireland v England back in '95. The gardaí/stewards knew there would be some trouble but they were hopeless when it came.

[Macy]

The worst football violence I have seen in many years. Football violence echos the state of the nation in England. Durings the 70' & 80's that type of scene wouldnt have made the news. Fast forward to 2009, we are now in the grips of a mini depression, ecenomic crisis etc. I think this could be the first of many. An unbelieveably high level of policing prevents similar trouble at the likes of Liverpool v Man United.

Don't kid yourself - it only made the news to such a degree because of the stabbing and the trouble inside the ground. There's trouble up and down England every week - it never went away.

And btw, I don't know why people are so quick to put the blame at Milwall's door - West Ham are hardly shrinking violets and without form.

[Umberside]

The press (especially in England) would love to get their hands on this kind of a story and make it sound unbelievable so they can fill the pages.

[reder]

Don't kid yourself - it only made the news to such a degree because of the stabbing and the trouble inside the ground. There's trouble up and down England every week - it never went away.

As someone who has attended home and away games all over the UK, I can confidently tell you that the level of trouble over the last decade at games in England was incomparible to that of the 70's & 80's. There will always be the odd bit of trouble here and there but you couldnt compare it to what was going on back then.

[Umberside]

There was pretty bad trouble at the Sunderland - Newcastle game last October as well, though the police did a good enough job there.

[Pauro 76]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/g...ture=352104808

Do these lads look just a tiny bit camp?

[Umberside]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/g...ture=352104808

Do these lads look just a tiny bit camp?

They look a bit gay to me.

[Macy]

As someone who has attended home and away games all over the UK, I can confidently tell you that the level of trouble over the last decade at games in England was incomparible to that of the 70's & 80's. There will always be the odd bit of trouble here and there but you couldnt compare it to what was going on back then.

It's not the mass disorder of the 70's and 80's, but it's carried on regardless - away from the grounds, away from the press and away from the general match going fan (for the most part). So no, it's not comparable to the 70's & 80's, but it's a hell of a lot more than the "odd bit".

[Scram]

It's not the mass disorder of the 70's and 80's, but it's carried on regardless - away from the grounds, away from the press and away from the general match going fan (for the most part). So no, it's not comparable to the 70's & 80's, but it's a hell of a lot more than the "odd bit".

The mainstream English media CHOOSE to ignore football violence, general thuggery, bullying and continued racism on and off "the terraces". Sky, The Star, Mirror etc. have too much financial interest in promoting "The Beautiful Game" to highlight the ugly side of the EPL Inc.

You will certainly not hear about intimidating atmosphere in with Man U. fans in European games and their many thug fans.

[Den Perry]

The mainstream English media CHOOSE to ignore football violence, general thuggery, bullying and continued racism on and off "the terraces". Sky, The Star, Mirror etc. have too much financial interest in promoting "The Beautiful Game" to highlight the ugly side of the EPL Inc.

You will certainly not hear about intimidating atmosphere in with Man U. fans in European games and their many thug fans.

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