Arrogant GAA

**Ringo** · 07/02/2004, 5:35 PM

From The Independent

Bohs tackle away strip by gearing up in Dubs' blue
The new Bohemians' change strip.

Saturday February 7th 2004

THE growing trend of soccer clubs in the Capital cashing in on the marketability of 'The Dubs' will continue in 2004.

In a similar move to that taken by Eircom League side Dublin City FC (previously Home Farm) a couple of seasons ago, Bohemians FC have gone all blue with the start of the new season approaching.

Bohs' away jersey for the 2004 season bears more than a striking resemblance in both style and colour to the current Dublin Gaelic football and hurling jersey, while the sleeve of the shirt is emblazoned with the words 'Bohemians of Dublin'.

Sources in Dublin City FC have confirmed that their move away from their tradition blue and white hoop to navy and blue has proved to be a major seller, especially in the lucrative tourist market.

For each official GAA jersey sold, the manufacturers - O'Neills in the case of Dublin - make a contribution to the County Board. Obviously, this fund could be significantly hit by soccer versions of official Dublin merchandise.

Dublin's GAA strip will be changing this summer when their new crest will also be unveiled.

Strange how they don't mention O�Neill�s do the Bohs strip as well. The GAA should look to them, rather than blaming soccer clubs. The arrogance of them thinking they own the county colours or the crest. No one can register the county crest, that�s why their changing theirs. F*ck the GAA. They also don�t mention The Dublin City jersey is half the price of the GAA one. If their really worried about sales maybe they should look at their retail price. The reason GAA fans are buying other clothing ranges is because they are getting ripped off.

**patsh** · 08/02/2004, 10:53 AM

Where does it say that the GAA " think they own the county colours or the crest"?
This is a story about how soccer clubs are piggybacking on the success of the GAA.
How do you turn this into a rant against the GAA?...

**Ringo** · 08/02/2004, 3:06 PM

Originally posted by Conor74
Spot on. It's hardly the GAA's fault that clubs in Dublin have taken to ripping off their colours and they're entitled to complain. Dublin clubs should be big enough and confident enough of their own marketing abilities not to have to ride the coattails of another organisation. Since Cork City stopped making jerseys that had the GAA county colours and gave fans the option of wearing Barry's Tea tops, I'd say sales have gone up.

a) the County colours do not belong to the GAA.
b) the Three castle crest belongs to Dublin City Council, not the gaa county Board.
c)The point I was making was O'Neills make both tops & do very well out of them.
d) The GAA are worried that they won't be able to keep overcharging Dublin GAA fans.

**Ringo** · 08/02/2004, 3:08 PM

Originally posted by patsh
Where does it say that the GAA " think they own the county colours or the crest"?
This is a story about how soccer clubs are piggybacking on the success of the GAA.
How do you turn this into a rant against the GAA?...

Success of the Dublin GAA team? One all Ireland in the last twenty years. Don't make me laugh.

**patsh** · 08/02/2004, 4:20 PM

Originally posted by Ringo
a) the County colours do not belong to the GAA.
b) the Three castle crest belongs to Dublin City Council, not the gaa county Board.
c)The point I was making was O'Neills make both tops & do very well out of them.
d) The GAA are worried that they won't be able to keep overcharging Dublin GAA fans.

a) Where do the GAA claim to own the county colours?
b) Where have the GAA county board claimed they own the 3 castle crest?
c) O'Neills are doing well. How has this got something to do with a rant at the GAA?
d)Where do the GAA make any statement/claim/point about soccer clubs using the same colours?

If you want to have a rant at the GAA, just have one. Attempting to turn this story about soccer clubs and their choice of jersey into the GAA's fault is pathetic in the extreme....

**TommyT** · 08/02/2004, 4:55 PM

''For each official GAA jersey sold, the manufacturers - O'Neills in the case of Dublin - make a contribution to the County Board. Obviously, this fund could be significantly hit by soccer versions of official Dublin merchandise'' implies that people wearing the GAA colours and city coat of arms should contribute to the Bogballers.

''Dublin GAA'' surely a contradiction in terms

**tiktok** · 08/02/2004, 6:15 PM

There's no quote from any GAA representative in that Indo piece Ringo, just a so-called journalist trying to fill a column.

of course the clubs can choose whatever colours they want, but lets call it as it is, Dublin City picked those colours because they are the Dublin GAA colours and they wanted to cash in of slice of the jersey action, they and O'Carroll's are doing well out of it, and desp;ite this 'article' i've heard no complaints or arrogance form the GAA

**Ringo** · 08/02/2004, 8:11 PM

Dublin City Picked the colours ,because they are the Dublin Colours,not The Dublin GAA colours. While this article does not quote GAA sourses , previous articles have. They are making a new crest, out of the four council crests of Dublin county. good look to them , thats their brand, we have ours. Cork City, Galway, Kildare county , UCD , Limerick Etc ,all use their county colours & why not its as much theiras it is the GAA's. I would also suggest the Carrolls @�25.99 are not doing as well as Arnotts/O'Neills & the GAA �60. The fans are buying jeseys other than the official one , because of the price.

**Ringo** · 08/02/2004, 8:17 PM

Originally posted by patsh
a) Where do the GAA claim to own the county colours?
b) Where have the GAA county board claimed they own the 3 castle crest?
c) O'Neills are doing well. How has this got something to do with a rant at the GAA?
d)Where do the GAA make any statement/claim/point about soccer clubs using the same colours?

If you want to have a rant at the GAA, just have one. Attempting to turn this story about soccer clubs and their choice of jersey into the GAA's fault is pathetic in the extreme....

a) That why their changing their crest jersey this year.
b) O'Neills contol the GAA jersey market, claiming they make them in Ireland(that's why Nike/Umbro etc don't make any GAA jerseys). Foreign sports not allowed in Croke Park. But a jersey printed in China & asembled in Romania is OK.
C) Part of the problem, ripping off fans.
d) see point (a). they made statements a few months ago, announcing the change of Jersey after losing a case against Primark.

**Ringo** · 09/02/2004, 7:16 AM

your crest is red & white & at different stages you have had red & white jerseys AFIK.

**tiktok** · 09/02/2004, 9:09 AM

Originally posted by Ringo
Dublin City Picked the colours ,because they are the Dublin Colours,not The Dublin GAA colours.

If the GAA team had played in red and white you would have chosen those regardless of the official county colours. Nothing wrong with it, quite clever marketing IMO, but call a spade a spade.

Originally posted by Ringo
While this article does not quote GAA sourses , previous articles have.

well use those to back up your opinions, because the one above doesn't

Originally posted by Ringo
Cork City, Galway, Kildare county , UCD , Limerick Etc ,all use their county colours & why not its as much theiras it is the GAA's.

the historical Cork 'soccer' colours are green and white, we did recently go all red and white and it .was admitted it was to align ourselves with the GAA colours, same as DC have done. It turned out to be a mistake for city and was rightly corrected.

Originally posted by Ringo
I would also suggest the Carrolls @�25.99 are not doing as well as Arnotts/O'Neills & the GAA �60. The fans are buying jeseys other than the official one , because of the price.

Carroll's price is a good bargain, but the dearer price is a pretty standard shirt cost these days, if you're stating that Dubs are buying the DC shirt going to GAA matches even though they don't turn up for DC games, then the GAA would have every right to complain.

be honest, would you complain if Bohs priced their new away shirt at �15 (and DC fans bought it instead of your own because it was cheaper)? I think you probably would.

**Ringo** · 09/02/2004, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by tiktok
Carroll's price is a good bargain, but the dearer price is a pretty standard shirt cost these days, if you're stating that Dubs are buying the DC shirt going to GAA matches even though they don't turn up for DC games, then the GAA would have every right to complain.
be honest, would you complain if Bohs priced their new away shirt at �15 (and DC fans bought it instead of your own because it was cheaper)? I think you probably would.

Does it make it accetable that , everyone else is overcharging so its ok? The problem with Dublin GAA can been seen now during the NFL. last week against the All - Ireland champions there were about 6000 in Parnell Park. If that was the championship Croke park would be full. All i'm saying is the GAA needs to stop worring about other & forign games & start being proud of their own sports & not afraid of other sports

there's no chance of that happening. Carroll's are making money out of the shirt & contributing to Dublin City, the exact same as O'Neills with the Dublin County board. The quantities O'Neills are selling are vastly greater.

At the end of the day a true fan will always buy the proper replica shirt.

O'Neills also refuse to supply Dublin GAA merchandise to Carroll's

**IrelandUnited** · 12/02/2004, 7:24 PM

Believe it or not I never knew the Carroll's shirt was Dublin City FC. I thought it was a rip off of the GAA shirt sold in Moore st. or wherever. Honest to god I did.

Well done DC FC on a good idea. The Dubs GAA shirts sold 70,000 in the last 2 years so they are a good thing to piggyback and I hope the club does well out of it.

As for GAA arrogance given that they do not seem to have commented one way or the other I can't see any arrogance. I send my 9 year old son to a youth soccer club which charges me a 70 euro sub, which I understand and willingly pay, and to a GAA club which puts as much in but charges me nothing. Not a cent.

I do not support the gme but my son likes going and its free. that to my mind is a great service and I wish juvenile football clubs did the same. Calling it bogball and saying it has no place in Dublin is the same arrogant narrow minded stupidity which has the more boring of them ranting that we play and watch an english game and are consequently tans.

Guess what? GAA comes from the country and soccer from England. In a sense both are contradictions in terms in Dublin. In a sense we are playing a game the english taught us and they are playing a bog game. So where are we? Playing marbles or something? It is one of the most boring debates in Irish sport.

**Ringo** · 12/02/2004, 7:37 PM

With our New Jersey out soon & the GAA changing their crest/jersey we'll be nothing a like. Saw the new GAA crest for the first time today, definitely designed by a committee. Don�t see it catching on, very strange.

**4tothefloor** · 15/02/2004, 1:22 AM

Originally posted by Ringo
Cork City, Galway, Kildare county , UCD , Limerick Etc ,all use their county colours & why not its as much theiras it is the GAA's.

Limerick GAA wear green and white. Limerick FC wear blue and white. Don't see the similarity there myself.